Ludwig vintage snare has 2 date stamps?

JazzDrumGuy

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I just scored a neglected 1965 WMP jazz fest snare. Looks original but is missing wires/muffler. Serial # is 198K. I got a shot of the inside and it has 2 date stamps - red and black. Red looks like Sept. 8, 1965, and black looks like Sep. 9 ??? Never seen two stamps before. The red ink and font looks right but I thought red was phased out by 1965. I had a red stamp from Oct. 60 (transition) and have a Pioneer with a normal black 1965 date stamp. The black font looks all wrong.

I could not find other posts to explain this and haven't seen this before. Any insight would be appreciated. The drum is very dirty and needs a lot of TLC but I thought the double dates made it that much more interesting....thanks!


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I bought a new Ludwig snare drum a few years ago, it was a Guitar Center limited edition drum, and it has a badge with a serial number, and a sticker on the inside with a totally different serial number.

That will confuse someone in the future.
 

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or he corrected; picked up the wrong one (yesterdays) first
or he liked yesterdays better

and he figured "55 years from now some...."
 

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Maybe I've solved the whole "When did Ludwig go from red to black stamps?" dilemna??? Wed. 9/8/65 was the last day of red, and Thurs. 9/9/65 was the first day of black? But why did they double stamp......just those crazy Ludwig factory workers, I guess!

Then again, maybe NOT.....my May 16, 1965 Pioneer has a black date!
 

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That's cool. I think the change from red to black happened mid 1965 or so. I had a blue sparkle club date with July 1965 date stamps and they were all in red.
 

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WOW, that is seriously ugly. Please show us some after pics.
 

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There's only one stamp. You're seeing double. Time to check the eyesight?!
It's really odd how different the font is between the red stamp and the black stamp. The black font looks more common to me based on the drums I've had.
Stretch
 

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That shell should clean up nice, I hope for you.
I have a Clubdate kit that has 2 drums with red and 2 with black same July 7 1965 dates on all.
My Shells look like Mahogany inner and Maple outer plys.
Yours might be the other way around.
Just to add to the confusion.
Wayne
 


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