My Soultone Latin series work well with amplified music too. I have a full set that I sometimes use. I am betting that most of the Turkish brands are made in a few foundries and each brand is stamped and stenciled accordingly. I heard that the earlier Soultones actually had Masterwork stamps for a few runs. I'll further bet that most of the Turkish brands have models similar to your Diamond series (or my Soultone Latin series.)EvEnStEvEn said:Again, they don't just make incredibly nuanced, complex "Jazzy" cymbals, they also offer several lines to accommodate various playing styles & musical genres like Rock, Metal, Pop and EDM, Latin, etc..
I had these Diamond Series hats that were superb for amplified rock, pop and heavier playing,
Really nice hats, comparable in tone & quality to any of the popular cymbal brands, no question.
+1. A small note: Dream is a Chinese brand. For me they are my personal favorites, but I am loving the Soultones (and the one Agop) that I own too. You are right, if it sounds good it IS good. Amen to that.EvEnStEvEn said:Indeed, a large portion of the relatively recent explosion of newer Turkish "boutique" brands are probably crafted in the same foundry region of Turkey and inked accordingly, and there's a bunch of 'em - TRX, Turkish, Masterwork, Soultone, Diril, Dream, and many others appearing seemingly every few months and certainly lots of wonderful sounds and models from each, a delightful smorgasbord of unique choices and sonic temptations for every player seeking a voice!
As you mentioned earlier, if they're stamped "Made in Turkey" that's usually a good indication you're holding a cymbal worth trying. However, I still subscribe to the simple notion that if it sounds good, it IS good - stamps, models or brands notwithstanding.
It just happened that the Masterwork Legend line spoke to me in a way that I decided to gather up a set of my own, which wasn't easy at the time, as distribution & dealers for them were scarce but they're still going over a decade later and seem to be gaining worldwide popularity & recognition now.
Never played Mastercrafts. I agree with this statement but like all cymbals, there are good and bad ones. Not all Turkish ones are the grails. Just like some Zildjian K's and K Con's I've had/played sounded like dogs. I was in Bentley's yesterday and he showed me a few K's - I asked weights and he said does it matter, aren't you going by sound? Very true (although I do like to know weights)......I chose a nice old K based on sound of course!mtarrani said:I believe that they manufactured the first generation of Soultones for that company. My thoughts are that you cannot really go wrong with any of the hand crafted Turkish cymbals on the market these days.
I recallEvEnStEvEn said:Oh, you're correct, Mike. Dream cymbals aren't Turkish. My mistake, I somehow confused them with Supernatural, another of the newer, and magnificent Turkish brands.
Regardless, it's a fun era to be a drummer now. As I'm sure you recall, when we geezers started out we had 2 choices....Z or P.