Moeller technique videos

[Polska]

There are a lot of YouTube videos on the Moeller Technique but I'm wondering if anyone has watched/worked through any they've found particularly insightful. Yeah a teacher would be best, but not during these times. Thought I might see if I can make any progress on my own. Thanks!

 

[bigbonzo]

Yes, a teacher would be best. You wear a mask, he/she wears a mask, everyone will be fine.

 

[Topsy Turvy]

There are a lot of YouTube videos on the Moeller Technique but I'm wondering if anyone has watched/worked through any they've found particularly insightful. Yeah a teacher would be best, but not during these times. Thought I might see if I can make any progress on my own. Thanks!

The Jim Chapin ones are great!

 

[stevil]

Jojo Meyer’s DVD is excellent.

 

[Seb77]

I learned Moeller from watching Dave Weckl's videos. I particularly like how he addresses grip in this context, as this loosens up the wrist. He often talks about Moeller in his recent facebook/youtube live videos.

Videos with exaggerated movement/fast and loud repetitions haven't helped me much. Famularo has some good videos, but I'd stick to what he refers to as "low Moeller".

 

[Philaiy9]

Rick Dior has some great videos on it, traditional and matched grip.

 

[GretschMan61]

I learned Moeller by watching the Jim Chapin VHS Video back when it first came out .it is on YouTube now . Still the gold standard IMHO

 

[Polska]

Yes, back to drumming indeed! Amazing that thread on Moeller goes down one of those paths.

Thanks for all the suggestions!

 

[piccupstix]

Here's an older one that I gained a lot of understanding from :

 

[Roch]

I think you can figure things out well enough if you watch Jim Chapin videos over and over..The hard part comes with repetitive practice...and, that's down to you....

 

[Ptrick]

I agree with the Chapin, Jojo, and Weckl videos mentioned. I was fortunate enough to get to have a few sessions with Jim Chapin that changed my technique in the early 2000’s at the NAMM shows. Jim would set up in the DW booth with a practice pad and sticks, and just allow anyone to walk up and he would share his knowledge. I had a company display badge back then, so would catch him in the non-public times. He was so giving and gracious with his time and knowledge.

 

[Dirk]

I think you can figure things out well enough if you watch Jim Chapin videos over and over..The hard part comes with repetitive practice...and, that's down to you....

I get the impression that the level of effort required to get a usable Moeller motion, even just as a stand-alone rudiment like in a double stroke roll, takes many tens of hours (like more than a hundred) over quite a few months even if you understand the target motion you're after.

 

[Matched Gripper]

There are a lot of YouTube videos on the Moeller Technique but I'm wondering if anyone has watched/worked through any they've found particularly insightful. Yeah a teacher would be best, but not during these times. Thought I might see if I can make any progress on my own. Thanks!

The Jim Chapin video “Speed, Power, Control, Endurance” is the definitive lesson on Moeller, IMO. It’s up on YouTube now. There’s a lot of misinformation and misunderstanding about Moeller. Chapin was a student of Moeller himself and he takes you, step by step, through the correct method.

PS: Click on the Watch on Youtube link.

 

[Matched Gripper]

Here's an older one that I gained a lot of understanding from :

Derrick Pope has a handful of very good videos that are still up on YouTube, even though, apparently, he hasen’t been seen or heard from in about 15 years.

 

[JimmyM]

I get the impression that the level of effort required to get a usable Moeller motion, even just as a stand-alone rudiment like in a double stroke roll, takes many tens of hours (like more than a hundred) over quite a few months even if you understand the target motion you're after.

I didn’t find that to be the case. Took a little practice but the whip motion comes easily if you skip that exaggerated slow motion thing everyone demonstrates

 

[Seb77]

Claus Hessler in English:

History:

Pretty comprehensive explanation below, however it's in German. Try watching the fast parts at half or quarter speed, maybe you can switch on English subtitles:

Interesting new (to me) in-depth explanation: no stick hanging down; arm lift only at the very last moment.

 

[Seb77]

Right from the source:

 

[Matched Gripper]

I get the impression that the level of effort required to get a usable Moeller motion, even just as a stand-alone rudiment like in a double stroke roll, takes many tens of hours (like more than a hundred) over quite a few months even if you understand the target motion you're after.

IMO, every high level drummer uses Moeller to one extent or another out of necessity, whether they studied it or not, whether they realize it or not.

Having said that, a certain amount of discipline and devotion to the art are inherent aspects of being a musician. The idea of having to practice something for 100 hours shouldn’t scare you off. In less than 100 hours of dedicated practice, you can have a good working Moeller stroke that benefits your playing. However, to achieve an artist’s level of mastery, you can spend 1000’s of hours over years perfecting and maintaining your technique, whether it’s Moeller, Gladstone or open/closed. JMO!

 

[bigbonzo]

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[JimmyM]

IMO, every high level drummer uses Moeller to one extent or another out of necessity, whether they studied it or not, whether they realize it or not.

Having said that, a certain amount of discipline and devotion to the art are inherent aspects of being a musician. The idea of having to practice something for 100 hours shouldn’t scare you off. In less than 100 hours of dedicated practice, you can have a good working Moeller stroke that benefits your playing. However, to achieve an artist’s level of mastery, you can spend 1000’s of hours over years perfecting and maintaining your technique, whether it’s Moeller, Gladstone or open/closed. JMO!

I knew there was a catch to doing this drums thing again!