Mystery MIJ Snare

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No badges but you can see where the snare had one.
I am starting to think looking at my kit as a whole that it's someone's project kit and they used parts that they had laying around.
It can't be a Rogers floor tom even tho it has 3 Rogers leg tighteners.
The snare lugs look like leedy lugs.
The bottom snare rim is the old die cast type . It's different from the top rim , which is the newer style.
And the snare dampener looks old. Like slingerland maybe.
I have to do more research on that style dampener to see how many companies used it.
 

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I got Marc patch's book yesterday on mij kits.its helpful.
It said that Rogers hired out mij company to make a lower price model the 1st 360 n 380.
I think I may be half right and it started out as a Rogers mij.

Also for lanebune's tension rods ...I found this site....... Vintage drum guide.com .
He says he has a lot of small mij parts that are not pictured. For sale.
He has an email link .
Good luck, I will continue to keep an eye out for those tension rods.
 

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thx, jptrickster for the info.
ill have to start my own thread about my kit this thread is for lanebune kit and if anybody has anything like it.
im new to any forums. so i dont want to step on any toes.
thx again
 

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I have the butt, hoops, throw. Everything but these dang rods and like Mark said they may be like looking for a needle in a haystack! Thanks for all the info you sent. Very interesting.
I've been looking thru my parts shelves and found these.
There are 2 at 6" , 1 at 51/2 ,1 at 5", a few ar 41/2 and a few at4" .

Are any of these helpful to you?
 

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Thanks for the pics rock roll. I appreciate it.

These rods are 5 3/4 with the half moon plate that fits on one end.
 

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Thanks for the pics rock roll. I appreciate it.

These rods are 5 3/4 with the half moon plate that fits on one end.
So you could use these 6" rods? Correct?
I found another bag almost the same contents which mean I now have 4 ... 6" rods.
You would have to use bolts for the end but you could get it up and playable until you find some more half moon ends.

Let me know if you want them. I'll send em free.
Jeff
 

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Yes, I believe H. Gakki is Star and of course later becomes Tama. I’m not really sure where the “Hoshino” brand fits in just read somewhere they were in fact different.
There was a Hoshino brand that was not associated with Tama. I've heard they only existed until the mid 70's.
My first kit had a tom mount that was associated with that other Hoshino.
 

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So you could use these 6" rods? Correct?
I found another bag almost the same contents which mean I now have 4 ... 6" rods.
You would have to use bolts for the end but you could get it up and playable until you find some more half moon ends.

Let me know if you want them. I'll send em free.
Jeff
Wow! Thanks Jeff That's fantastic. I'll PM you my info. I'd be happy to pay for shipping.
 

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Wow! Thanks Jeff That's fantastic. I'll PM you my info. I'd be happy to pay for shipping.
It won't cost much , don't worry about it.
I've never bought except on eBay. And I've never sold, I have traded to friends of given as gifts.
although I have too much stuff and I still want more.lol.
i may start selling a few things like my 70's slingerland bongos etc. at some point , I will be tempted to get a matching drum kit.
I have 5 or 6 premiers ?
'58 premier black strata jazz set ,no snare.20" bass. Can't rember mounted and floor tom sizes .. I traded an early 80's .. Ludwig psychedelic swirl rock set for it along with 2paiste signature cymbals. I went back to original owner so I didn't care.
71' premier mahogany duroplasty Jazz kit, no snare. 20" bass.
80's premier black resonator rock set, no snare.22" bass14" floor .
80's premier "black shadow" - 22" bass,16" floor, not sure of tom size. But I have 2 snares.one is gut string, one regular wires.
70's Beverley silver moon sparkle , one mounted tom and original snare. No floor.
Late 90's maybe .. Tame swing star- red , 18" bass 2 mounted , 14" floor.
A 90's or newer premier "deep red sparkle" 16" bass drum and one mounted 10x6" tom, no floor tom.
A 90's or newer - premier "red satin flame" 22" bass, 2 mounted,14" mounted floor.
A 60's or 70's pearl "blue sparkle" jazz kit.20" bass, 14" floor.
A cb700 internationals rock set that I am giving away.
A red sparkle mij stencil that you have seen.
A spray painted over mij stencil "Bradley" rock set.20" bass,14" floor.

You will notice I don't know the sizes of the mounted toms.
I can tell by sight, bass drum and floor tom sizes.but mounted I need to measure, and haven't needed to buy new heads yet.

I've got a few other misc peices, like Ludwig keystone brass timbales.premier copper timbales. Misc percussion cungas mounted bongos etc.
Some old trap stuff like hi hat stands and wood blocks.
It all takes up space.

I like this drum forum for many reasons, info being the best.
But also to see the kits listed that others have. My collection pales before a lot of what I see here . And it makes me feel better knowing a lot of others has more than one or two drum kits.

Anyways, I don't know what "pm" is. But I assume it's sending me your address so I can ship rods out to you.
Very bored right now,sorry for the long response.

Jeff
 

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Forgot my partial Rogers kit. I don't know age.
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The premier satin flame
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The pearl
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The Beverley
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The slingerland bongos
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The black shadow
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A few cos premier snares
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Yes I know it's a stencil, but I've never seen one like this. (Not that I'm an expert in MIJ drums)

I'm just wondering if anyone has seen one like this and may know what year it would be from approximately. I can't find GHI anywhere on line. you do see "Worlds Supreme Quility" on lots of stencil kits.

This one has a very heavy duty throw off/strainer that I've never seen on a MIJ drum, but it is definitely original to the drum. The long rods with the flat ends are new to me too.
Found something you might think is interesting....
2-Very Rare vintage Leedy nickel bass drum lugs from the 1930's 40's era.

These lugs are used on the Leedy Broadway model single tension bass drum and are referred to as
Streamlined "Half Moon" center supports. see cat pic.
Complete with original mounting hardware.
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