Sven62
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Looking to acquire a 6.5x14 Ludwig LM402. Anyone have any thoughts on an older one vs. a newer one? I know an early 70s O/B badge will cost more... but do they sound any better than a 90s, 00s, or a new one? TIA!
I detect a note of sarcasm.Yeah. the new ones are made from recycled beer cans. Ain't nothing like the real thing.
My '65 6.5x14 is different than my 70's B/O. My '65 has a "normal" set up - coated amb. My B/O is a Bonham setup and tuned accordingly. I honestly could not say whether they sound similar as the B/O only has one purpose for me.......my 80's and 90's are all bronze Supras and/or BB's......my '00 BB is brass. I had a '00 decade 5x14 and it sounded similar to vintage but lacked mojo....I have 400s from the 60s, 80s, and 90s. My favorite is a 1998 model, go figure. I have a 402 from '65 that fits right in and has "that" sound.
Dan
I think Bonzo would have approved of that.Yeah. the new ones are made from recycled beer cans.
I'd leave it as is, personally. I like the character of the modern 402 just fine.Good point, Charlesm - OP, if you find a good deal on a modern one, swap out the hoops for 1.6mm hoops........maybe that will sound close.....
I'm thinking of looking for a 402 from that 1998 vintage. I might be fooling myself, but maybe there was something really happening around that time. I get nothing but compliments on the 98 400. It gets a Remo Renaissance Emperor and kills at all tunings.My '65 6.5x14 is different than my 70's B/O. My '65 has a "normal" set up - coated amb. My B/O is a Bonham setup and tuned accordingly. I honestly could not say whether they sound similar as the B/O only has one purpose for me.......my 80's and 90's are all bronze Supras and/or BB's......my '00 BB is brass. I had a '00 decade 5x14 and it sounded similar to vintage but lacked mojo....
Monroe big gold badge ? Those are good drumsI'm thinking of looking for a 402 from that 1998 vintage. I might be fooling myself, but maybe there was something really happening around that time. I get nothing but compliments on the 98 400. It gets a Remo Renaissance Emperor and kills at all tunings.
Dan
I bought a modern LM402 in the last 5 years. I stole it really! I walked into a small music store near where I live and saw a newer keystone 402 in pristine condition for $199 I picked it up and walked to the check out and bought it on the spot. The store manager said that's a nice Acorlite don't you think? I smiled and said it's not an Acrolite it's a Supraphonic LM402. The look on his face was priceless. I told them thanks for the drum and turned and walked out of the door. As you stated there was no muffler so I went on line and bought a new Ludwig muffler for it and installed it using the same measurements and location as my LM400. It looks completely at home and works beautifully. As for new 402 verse old 402 comparison? My buddy has an early 70s blue/olive badge LM402 set up with same heads and all and both of us in a side by side comparison and could not tell any real appreciative difference in sound when tuned the same. We even used a drum dial and used same settings side by side just for comparison sake. The only difference was visually out side of a little chrome pitting on his older model, was, as has been said many times before, my Supra has slightly more lug splay than his. With that said there is not enough lug splay to cause me enough concern to want to change out the hoops.im not a ludwig guy and so my ludwig history is very limited.
but didnt the blue green lm402 also have a muffler.
when i purchased one in 2007 it had no muffler.