- Aug 25, 2009
- Reaction score
- southern California
Hey drumtimejohn!The bracket p83 is showing (middle) is an earlier era and will likely have just a basic script logo. I have those on my 65s and earlier. They hold a rod in place by set screw rather than an internal eye and external double washer. The latter (yours, on the right), IMO, has a superior hold on the rod for hanging toms/cymbals
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I've got one of those 1965 brackets. If I'm not mistaken, I believe it was the P1672. Ludwig discovered early on that the wing screw did a poor job of holding the tom to the L arm in the consolette holder. While it worked OK for tom legs, it was still a poor design. The first P1216 brackets were really nice, but only lasted a few years at best. The bean counters at Ludwig found ways to change the bracket internally, while keeping the outside looking the same. Ahh...progress!!