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So most my snare drums have die cast hoops. They’ve always been my favorite but as of late I’ve been looking at a lot of no flange hoops (the ones with small claws). So those with no flange hoops what do you love about them?
 

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I didnt go that route when I replaced all my flange hoops, I went wood hoops which I found to be a nice balance between die-cast and flanged. The claws of the no flange hoops put me off somewhat .....
 

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I have a WorldMax NOB 7x13 in their "vintage" fit-out, which is tube lugs + single flanged brass hoops w/ claws.

Pros:
- wide open, ringing rimshots. not "crack", but a musical, throaty resonance
- feel very soft under the hands. it's a joy to play, which isn't always the case with me and 13" drums

Cons:
- cross-stick is anemic. I had to add a groove wedge to do any kind of cross-stick on this drum

Here's a video of it (poor quality, but you get the general idea of the sound of the drum from it):
http://instagr.am/p/CCpVxqbDy6c/
With the groove wedge on this drum (the black one from the Yamaha 12" Musashi Oak), I used this as my main drum (live and studio) for my rock band for a long time -- with that addition, it's a remarkably versatile drum, especially for the price.
 
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I have a WorldMax NOB 7x13 in their "vintage" fit-out, which is tube lugs + single flanged brass hoops w/ claws.

Pros:
- wide open, ringing rimshots. not "crack", but a musical, throaty resonance
- feel very soft under the hands. it's a joy to play, which isn't always the case with me and 13" drums

Cons:
- cross-stick is anemic. I had to add a groove wedge to do any kind of cross-stick on this drum

Good info. I've considered them but play a lot of cross-stick so probably not for me. I do have one snare with yamaha style wood hoops and the cross-stick is great! The others all have triple flange 2.3's except on an older 400 that I believe have 1.6
 

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I didnt go that route when I replaced all my flange hoops, I went wood hoops which I found to be a nice balance between die-cast and flanged. The claws of the no flange hoops put me off somewhat .....
I must ask how do wood hoops hold up against hard rimshots? I’ve always wanted them but scared to break them.
 

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I have a WorldMax NOB 7x13 in their "vintage" fit-out, which is tube lugs + single flanged brass hoops w/ claws.

Pros:
- wide open, ringing rimshots. not "crack", but a musical, throaty resonance
- feel very soft under the hands. it's a joy to play, which isn't always the case with me and 13" drums

Cons:
- cross-stick is anemic. I had to add a groove wedge to do any kind of cross-stick on this drum

Here's a video of it (poor quality, but you get the general idea of the sound of the drum from it):
http://instagr.am/p/CCpVxqbDy6c/
With the groove wedge on this drum (the black one from the Yamaha 12" Musashi Oak), I used this as my main drum (live and studio) for my rock band for a long time -- with that addition, it's a remarkably versatile drum, especially for the price.
Sounds like I might like them. Minus the crossstick guess I could always sub a jam block for the couple songs I play with cross stick.
 

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I must ask how do wood hoops hold up against hard rimshots? I’ve always wanted them but scared to break them.
I play jazz so rim shots are few and far between for me personally but drummers like Steve Jordan used them and played a lot of rim shots. But I guess he can afford to replace them whenever he wants :).
 


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