Old Man Issues - Lower Back Pain

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Lower back is really sore this morning. I have sat behind 4 different kits and 4 different thrones in the last week. Last nights BP on my own DW round-top screw jack throne was the last straw. I cut practice short, couldn't hold a beat by hour 3. Do anyone of you guys bring your own throne to open jams or other situations where you have to sit behind a kit other than your own? I have a Roc-N-Soc tractor style hydraulic throne I keep at home for wood-shedding/non-band practicing but I'm thinking I will have to be "that guy" whose gotta mess with everybody's stuff and bring my own throne.
 

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Lower back is really sore this morning. I have sat behind 4 different kits and 4 different thrones in the last week. Last nights BP on my own DW round-top screw jack throne was the last straw. I cut practice short, couldn't hold a beat by hour 3. Do anyone of you guys bring your own throne to open jams or other situations where you have to sit behind a kit other than your own? I have a Roc-N-Soc tractor style hydraulic throne I keep at home for wood-shedding/non-band practicing but I'm thinking I will have to be "that guy" whose gotta mess with everybody's stuff and bring my own throne.
I hurt my back on my motorcycle two years ago. I really have to concentrate on my posture behind the kit when I play now. If you have a seat that works for you, you should use it. It is a very important piece of equipment when you are on it that long. Bad backs usually get worse instead of better as we get older.
 

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Make that 5 kits and 5 thrones in the last week. Forgot about my practice kit at home. My BP / Gigging kit is at my warehouse, where the band practices.
 

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As we age, most tend to hunch while sitting and slightly bow and droop our shoulders forward when walking.
Obviously, incorrect posture will lead to back issues. I personally found that gentle sit-ups and other abdominal strengthening exercises done on a regular basis made my lower back problems disappear. you also may want to get one of those neoprene back braces with the Velcro tensioner straps. They relieve pain almost immediately when cranked up.
On a side note, I have purged all double-braced, over-engineered, heavy hardware from my sets (except my throne), to cut down excessive lifting into a car.
 

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Interesting....

On my last pill of my second round of steroids over the last four weeks. Naproxen and muscle relaxers on too of that. Xrays....spondy, spurs, disc shrinkage, arthritis in the left hip.

I was JUST thinking yesterday-THRONE!!! Could not get comfortable, constant shifting, height adjustments. Old Tama Titan (one of three or four that I own) "screw top" with a 35 year old compressed foam top. Just. Not. Cutting it anymore.

I will be checking out the recommendations above more seriously than ever.

Thanks for the thread!
 

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Interesting....

On my last pill of my second round of steroids over the last four weeks. Naproxen and muscle relaxers on too of that. Xrays....spondy, spurs, disc shrinkage, arthritis in the left hip.

I was JUST thinking yesterday-THRONE!!! Could not get comfortable, constant shifting, height adjustments. Old Tama Titan (one of three or four that I own) "screw top" with a 35 year old compressed foam top. Just. Not. Cutting it anymore.

I will be checking out the recommendations above more seriously than ever.

Thanks for the thread!
I had my Titan throne set up behind my Neil Peart Superstar kit, but soon replaced it with a real throne for comfort.
 

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As we age, most tend to hunch while sitting and slightly bow and droop our shoulders forward when walking.
Obviously, incorrect posture will lead to back issues. I personally found that gentle sit-ups and other abdominal strengthening exercises done on a regular basis made my lower back problems disappear. you also may want to get one of those neoprene back braces with the Velcro tensioner straps. They relieve pain almost immediately when cranked up.
On a side note, I have purged all double-braced, over-engineered, heavy hardware from my sets (except my throne), to cut down excessive lifting into a car.
Same here : physio gave me a bunch of abs exercices (different variations of planks) and stretching, and I am good as new.

Might not apply to everyone so better check with a specialist beforehand, but so far it is working out great for me.
 

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I used to say "get a soundseat" but I'm going to give you some other advice. Have a Skype lesson with Dave Elitch. Or better yet, do it in person if you come to LA for work/vacation.

It will change everything about your life, and your drumming, and your pain. It was eye opening to say the least (I did mine in person).

Go for the two hour lesson the first time.


Jeff
 

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What model Bandit?
I just looked it up in the catalogue. I mislead you. I have the 1982 Tama 6785 Mercury model. Looks like it is two models cheaper than the one you are talking about. Yours looks like it has twice the padding. Of course if the padding is too soft, it is just as bad. On a side note, who told them that brown vinyl was the best colour for a drum throne. Guess they were going for the fake leather look. :)
 

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I just looked it up in the catalogue. I mislead you. I have the 1982 Tama 6785 Mercury model. Looks like it is two models cheaper than the one you are talking about. Yours looks like it has twice the padding. Of course if the padding is too soft, it is just as bad. On a side note, who told them that brown vinyl was the best colour for a drum throne. Guess they were going for the fake leather look. :)
Lol.....

What model throne did you REPLACE the Tama with?
 

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Even if there's a backline kit and we're only playing an hour, I bring my throne. It's comfy and it's adjusted exactly where I want it. I'm not a fan of the tractor style and that seems to be the common one in backlines. Or, the round one with no padding. I bring quite a bit of gear to those kind of gigs, but I want to be as comfortable as possible, which means using a decent amount of my own stuff.
 

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To add my $0.02, get a MotionPro throne. They're worth every penny. Get evaluated by a good physical therapist to get exercises tailored to your body. And talk to Dave Elitch or someone else who will help you address any postural/ergonomic issues in your playing. I did all three in the last year and it's been great.

Like someone else said, our backs don't get better with age. But taking productive steps can slow the process and reduce the symptoms.

Good luck to you.
 

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I have a bad back also a work related injury. I take my throne also its very comfortable, right height, and mine. I have a Ludwig Atlas Classic blue/olive round seat.
 

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I can't comfortably perform full sets of music using any throne other than my own (PorkPie BigBoy)
 

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Lower back is really sore this morning. I have sat behind 4 different kits and 4 different thrones in the last week. Last nights BP on my own DW round-top screw jack throne was the last straw. I cut practice short, couldn't hold a beat by hour 3. Do anyone of you guys bring your own throne to open jams or other situations where you have to sit behind a kit other than your own? I have a Roc-N-Soc tractor style hydraulic throne I keep at home for wood-shedding/non-band practicing but I'm thinking I will have to be "that guy" whose gotta mess with everybody's stuff and bring my own throne.
If your "spare tire" isn't too prominent, you can relieve lower back pain by laying on the floor, on your stomach.
Turn your head to whichever side is most comfortable and just relax for about 5 minutes.
Concentrate on keeping your muscles loose.
Laying on your stomach, on a hard surface, is the only position you can do that will take all the tension off your lower back.
Whatever you do, DON'T SIT. It's the worst thing you can do. Standing (which I do all the time now) is much better for your back, since you can displace the load imposed by your upper body across your two legs.
When you sit, your lower back takes that entire load (and your upper body accounts for about 70% of your total body weight. So if you're 200 lbs., your upper body is about 140 lbs. of it).
Trust me, I spasmed my back in the mid 90's so bad it puiled the arch out of it.
That laying on the floor thing was part of a series of PT exercises the doc told me to do......Ibuprofen helps, too.
Works like gangbusters.

Elvis
 
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Always bring your own throne, Period! Make sure that your throne is the best, most supportive out there that you feel good playing on. My favorite is the SoundSeat with it's own 5 legged base.
 

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