Older PREMIER kit ID?

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Hi all,

I picked up this Premier kit a few months ago during my 'buy every vintage item I can find' phase (though that phase has never really ceased). I really don't know much about Premier at all, as I've always been a Ludwig junky.
With that being said, I was wondering if anybody could help me identify this kit that I purchased? I would like to believe I got a good deal, or at least have something that is worth keeping around.
It's going to be a major project and I want to gauge whether or not it will be worth the time/effort/money to fully restore. I also have the option of buying the same kit in near mint condition, albeit in a gold wrap of the same style, for 4x what I paid for this one.
So for no more than my peace of mind, does anybody know the model/year/estimated value/likelihood of getting matching parts if needed/etc of the following?:

5pc. Premier Kit (described as 'most likely 60s era' during purchase) w/ blood red 'refractive' type wrap
12" Rack Tom
14" Rack Tom
16" Floor Tom
22" Kick (w/ really HEAVY duty Tom Mount)
14" Snare
Hi-Hat, Snare and Straight Cymbal Stands (all matching + same model w/ white 'PREMIER Made in England' lettering on black background)
Absolutely no unique identifiers (serial/model#/year/etc.) anywhere that I've noticed other than the stickers on the hardware and the unique looking wrap.

If I can provide anymore information or pictures please just let me know.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Thank you.
- Jon

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Those are from the mid-nineites

They are the XPK/APK series

They have been re-wrapped.

Below are some pages from a mid-nineties Premier catalog for comparison.

Hope you got 'em cheap.
 

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i have some vintage drums
yours are not old at all,check the lugs

check mine out under for sale
the premier white kik,2toms for 350

good luck,hope you gotem cheap
 

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http://www.drumforum.org/index.php?/topic/61701-vintage-60s-premier-kit/
 

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Actually,maybe not a re wrap,I saw guitar center selling xpk apk in the same pattern,although the colors I remember were a blue,and I think a yellow /green IIRC.May have been a limited/short run or a GC exclusive.
I think the time period was late 90's

Either way,cool looking kit IMO.
 

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Those are from the mid-nineites

They are the XPK/APK series

They have been re-wrapped.

Below are some pages from a mid-nineties Premier catalog for comparison.

Hope you got 'em cheap.
Thanks a bunch for the help with identifying these. The catalog shots are great! Seeing Birch/Eucalyptus/Birch shells mentioned in the description definitely peaked my interest!

I must ask though - What indicates that this kit has been re-wrapped? I only question this statement because I have access to another set of these, and the wraps on both kits are nearly identical aside from the other being a gold/dark yellow color. This makes me assume that this style of wrap must have been released by Premier at some point in time, possibly in limited quantities. Any thoughts?

Also - I paid $140 for everything: Snare, 2 Rack+1 Floor Tom, Kick, Tom Mount, Snare+Hi-Hat+Cymbal Stands, Iron Cobra Kick Pedal and I plan on doing a full restoration, as this is my first/only Premier kit. Even though it's going to cost me $180 to replace all of the heads and maybe $60-$80 to replace the Kick hoops, everything else is in proper enough shape for a simple (but tedious) Wire Brush/Sandpaper/Dremel/CLR/Buff & Polish job. So I hope I didn't get a bad deal.

Anyways - thanks again for your help!
 

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Those are from the mid-nineites

They are the XPK/APK series

They have been re-wrapped.

Below are some pages from a mid-nineties Premier catalog for comparison.

Hope you got 'em cheap.
Thanks a bunch for the help with identifying these. The catalog shots are great! Seeing Birch/Eucalyptus/Birch shells mentioned in the description definitely peaked my interest!

I must ask though - What indicates that this kit has been re-wrapped? I only question this statement because I have access to another set of these, and the wraps on both kits are nearly identical aside from the other being a gold/dark yellow color. This makes me assume that this style of wrap must have been released by Premier at some point in time, possibly in limited quantities. Any thoughts?

Also - I paid $140 for everything: Snare, 2 Rack+1 Floor Tom, Kick, Tom Mount, Snare+Hi-Hat+Cymbal Stands, Iron Cobra Kick Pedal and I plan on doing a full restoration, as this is my first/only Premier kit. Even though it's going to cost me $180 to replace all of the heads and maybe $60-$80 to replace the Kick hoops, everything else is in proper enough shape for a simple (but tedious) Wire Brush/Sandpaper/Dremel/CLR/Buff & Polish job. So I hope I didn't get a bad deal.

Anyways - thanks again for your help!
I could be wrong about the re-wrap - though the finish that your drums have wasn't cataloged - Marc M says they could've been a GC-only color - and considering that GC was very deep into Premier back then, such could be the case.

For $140 you did good - real good. These normally sell in the $300 range used, so don't get too carried away in your restoration; I would clean them up, replace heads where needed, and enjoy them.
 

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Those are from the mid-nineites

They are the XPK/APK series

They have been re-wrapped.

Below are some pages from a mid-nineties Premier catalog for comparison.

Hope you got 'em cheap.
Thanks a bunch for the help with identifying these. The catalog shots are great! Seeing Birch/Eucalyptus/Birch shells mentioned in the description definitely peaked my interest!

I must ask though - What indicates that this kit has been re-wrapped? I only question this statement because I have access to another set of these, and the wraps on both kits are nearly identical aside from the other being a gold/dark yellow color. This makes me assume that this style of wrap must have been released by Premier at some point in time, possibly in limited quantities. Any thoughts?

Also - I paid $140 for everything: Snare, 2 Rack+1 Floor Tom, Kick, Tom Mount, Snare+Hi-Hat+Cymbal Stands, Iron Cobra Kick Pedal and I plan on doing a full restoration, as this is my first/only Premier kit. Even though it's going to cost me $180 to replace all of the heads and maybe $60-$80 to replace the Kick hoops, everything else is in proper enough shape for a simple (but tedious) Wire Brush/Sandpaper/Dremel/CLR/Buff & Polish job. So I hope I didn't get a bad deal.

Anyways - thanks again for your help!
I could be wrong about the re-wrap - though the finish that your drums have wasn't cataloged - Marc M says they could've been a GC-only color - and considering that GC was very deep into Premier back then, such could be the case.

For $140 you did good - real good. These normally sell in the $300 range used, so don't get too carried away in your restoration; I would clean them up, replace heads where needed, and enjoy them.
Excellent. Thanks again to both you and Marc.

The other kit (gold wrap) has an asking price of $550. They're convinced it's a 1960s era kit. Glad I found out the proper information prior to investing too much time and effort into keeping this thing as 'vintage' as possible.
 

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APK Retro Satins were released for the 75th Anniversary in 1997 and were available in a bunch of colors including the red one you have. Production ended on these in early 1998. I don't believe they every made it into a full up catalog but here is a shot from the 75th Aniv flyer.

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