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Mcjnic

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Horizontal grain I presume. If I understand correctly, Jeff Kirsch seems critical of horizontal grain in the bearing edges in terms of longevity.

Guessing the Orions are cannons compared to the Horizons.

Not familiar with any edge issues.
Bob Gatzen designed these, from what I can recall.
I think these originally came out quite a few years ago and were brought back.

As to the Orion kit …
It is an unreal sound.
I‘m currently recording the theme song to an animated series.
I am utilizing the Orion toms at the start and the N&C kit for the remainder.
Such incredible sounds.
I love when kits sit together and are so different sounding.
 

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Not familiar with any edge issues.
Bob Gatzen designed these, from what I can recall.
I think these originally came out quite a few years ago and were brought back.

As to the Orion kit …
It is an unreal sound.
I‘m currently recording the theme song to an animated series.
I am utilizing the Orion toms at the start and the N&C kit for the remainder.
Such incredible sounds.
I love when kits sit together and are so different sounding.
I wonder if the edge issue could do with the possibility of large tear outs, if the blade catches the edge of the grain wrong.
Cutting across the grain would cause a small chip, but with the grain, the tear out could be rather long.
....seems like a "one-in-a-million" thing, though.
As for the Horizon series, I remember a book that came out when I was in high school.....

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...that's supposedly an early Horizon kit.
I believe this book came out in the late 70's.
I remember a lot of people thinking that was an amazingly cool looking kit, at the time.


Elvis
 

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I wonder if the edge issue could do with the possibility of large tear outs, if the blade catches the edge of the grain wrong.
Cutting across the grain would cause a small chip, but with the grain, the tear out could be rather long.
....seems like a "one-in-a-million" thing, though.
As for the Horizon series, I remember a book that came out when I was in high school.....

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...that's supposedly an early Horizon kit.
I believe this book came out in the late 70's.
I remember a lot of people thinking that was an amazingly cool looking kit, at the time.


Elvis
I would think N&C don't have problem with the edges on their drums, but I've been wrong before.
 

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Not familiar with any edge issues.
Bob Gatzen designed these, from what I can recall.
I think these originally came out quite a few years ago and were brought back.

As to the Orion kit …
It is an unreal sound.
I‘m currently recording the theme song to an animated series.
I am utilizing the Orion toms at the start and the N&C kit for the remainder.
Such incredible sounds.
I love when kits sit together and are so different sounding.
IIRC, Jeff Kirsch says that horizontal grain in the bearing edge is less durable in the long run.

PS: I might also have it backwards. Shrug!
 
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20/12/14 with matching 5.5x14 snare. Custom from Paul Bleifuss (RIP). I love my Rogers and my newer Gretsch, but this is the only kit I would really need. Plus it has major sentimental value. This one will stay in the family.
 

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So, what’s unique about the Horizon line compared to other N&C lines?

The Horizon line was N&C’s initial foray into multiply shell drum sets . This line was designed in cooperation with renowned drum designer Bob Gatzen . The maple shells were laid in a predominantly horizontal grain layup to simulate a solid shell. They do have a couple vertical grain plies for shell stability . They added an inner ply of mahogany that they purposefully left with a bit of a nap . This inner ply added some bottom end and thickness to the attack . The drums are very full and fat sounding .
The Horizon line was discontinued in the mid 90’s . N&C then introduced the CD Maples ( CD stands for custom design). The CD maples were also designed in cooperation with Bob Gatzen . Different diameters would have different amounts of plies . These are much sharper and attack heavy compared to the Horizons .
The Horizon series was reintroduced awhile back. The major difference between the originals and the reintroduced line were the lugs . The originals had the Star Series style lugs with a single casting and long brass tube . The newer line has the CD Maples lug .
 

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I wonder if the edge issue could do with the possibility of large tear outs, if the blade catches the edge of the grain wrong.
Cutting across the grain would cause a small chip, but with the grain, the tear out could be rather long.
....seems like a "one-in-a-million" thing, though.
As for the Horizon series, I remember a book that came out when I was in high school.....

View attachment 569140

...that's supposedly an early Horizon kit.
I believe this book came out in the late 70's.
I remember a lot of people thinking that was an amazingly cool looking kit, at the time.


Elvis
That is a CD Maples Kit . You can tell by the oval badge .
 

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Just one, I would have to go with my Yamaha Recording Custom kit, when they reissued them about
10 yrs or so ago Shane at DCP got me ser #2 in Hot red..6pc, killer kit especially the snare.
 

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The various modes of my one kit.

Hard rock, grindcore, jazz, fusion…these things do it all.


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20/12/14 with matching 5.5x14 snare. Custom from Paul Bleifuss (RIP). I love my Rogers and my newer Gretsch, but this is the only kit I would really need. Plus it has major sentimental value. This one will stay in the family.
I had a kit that Paul built for me. 13,16,22. We were talking about a bop kit when he fell. ill. Great guy. Great drums.
 


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