OT - bands or artists you’ve soured to.

[Squirrel Man]

Oi vey...

 

[old_K_ride]

And once he started suing the other members of CCR, it really rubbed me the wrong way. Yes, he was the writer of a lot of their classic tunes but he openly acted/acts like he’s the only important member of the band and the rest of them can be replaced easily. That’s not only a no but a hellz no. Cosmo was an integral part of their sound.

Fogerty always sounds "frantic" to me...not the CCR stuff...his solo stuff is CLICK STIFF and his vocals sound like he's doing a John Fogerty impression...everything sounds nervous even when he's doing CCR...my .2

 

[cobaltspike]

Pink Floyd, oops, I always disliked them so I guess it doesn't count. Slow and boring and what does Dave Mason need two bass drums for?

 

[poot]

Russell Wilson

 

[BoomBoom]

I have several of Gary's albums. When I would play one, I could never sit back and enjoy it, but study it, just like when I would see a movie to study the acting, and totally lose the story. I never could master playing with four mallets, but did very well with three. The single was in my right hand for commanding the melody.

What grip were you using? Did you ever try The Burton Grip? When I discovered that it was a game changer. And Gary often would cock the left mallet in his right hand way back and just play the melody with the one mallet like you did. He gives a good explanation of it here:

What Gary Burton albums do you have?

I see your name includes vibes. Do you still play vibes?

 

[JohnnyVibesAZ]

What grip were you using? Did you ever try The Burton Grip? When I discovered that it was a game changer. And Gary often would cock the left mallet in his right hand way back and just play the melody with the one mallet like you did. He gives a good explanation of it here:

What Gary Burton albums do you have?

I see your name includes vibes. Do you still play vibes?

Yeah, we're getting far away from the subject of the original post here, but I guess it happens all the time on this site.

I started playing the xylophone in the school bands and orchestras, and that started me playing with just two mallets. In the 60s and 70s, I played vibes in my high school and college days and a few years after that. The high school had a Premier vibraphone that I wish I owned today. I bought a Deagan Aurora from a fellow player, but sold it just after a few years, because I got NO gigs with it. I worked a lot as a drummer. Even though I'm a big fan of Gary Burton and Steve Raybine, my hero was and is Cal Tjader, who used two mallets. I watched Burton teaching a student how to hold the mallets, when he was on break from a gig, but didn't get to talk to him, because the break ended, and he went back on stage. I tried Burton's grip, but just couldn't get used to it. I like to choke up a little more on the mallet, so I use the traditional grip with two in my left hand and one in my right hand. Burton was a piano player before he was a vibist, and at the end of the video, he made a comment on playing with four mallets was like playing the piano. Lots of vibists, like me, are former drummers and have that mindset, I guess, to play with two. I don't own a vibraphone now, and really don't have room for it in my small place, or the money to buy one. My drums take up a third of the living room.

I have or have had several of Burton's albums. Some got lost when I left them at a radio station I worked at. The first one I bought was "The Time Machine" and still have it today. The others are "Good Vibes", A New Vibes Man in Town", "Alone at Last". His tribute album to vibes icons, "Duster", the ones with Chic Corea, Stephan Grapelli, and others. I know there are a couple more, at least. Thanks so much for sending the video. Makes me want to play again.

 

[Trommeslager]

Go

Pink Floyd, oops, I always disliked them so I guess it doesn't count. Slow and boring and what does Dave Mason need two bass drums for?

Nick Mason.

 

[Vicey]

Go

Nick Mason.

Dave Mason can use all the bass drums he wants because he's actually playing guitar.

 

[michaelg]

Van Morrison and Eric Clapton.

 

[DrummBumm89]

There are plenty of bands I grew up on that I've moved away from due to classic rock radio beating their songs to death. Since I no longer listen to radio I'm able to return to some of it on my own terms (when I'm in the mood to hear it) and I find some of it I can enjoy once again.

There is a difference though with moving away from an artist due to their beliefs or behavior, and I agree - it is a very slippery slope. One thing I can't handle is intolerance. My favorite artists are all pretty liberal in their acceptance of everyone, but i won't venture near anyone who spouts off against women, religious beliefs, and lifestyle choices. Everyone has a right to their opinion, but I believe everyone has the same right to find their way in the world. You're an artist sharing intolerant rhetoric, I'll support that freedom of speech but I will not support you. The only example that I can think of that I followed at one time but no longer do is drummer Hilary Jones.

Hilary Jones really ruined her career with a tweet one random day. Like the one throne guy Sucherman used to use, all the endorsements (and even some bands?) just noped out instantly.

 

[Polska]

Hilary Jones really ruined her career with a tweet one random day. Like the one throne guy Sucherman used to use, all the endorsements (and even some bands?) just noped out instantly.

Yep. Words have consequences. Especially when your name is attached to a product.

 

[Grooovepig]

Pink Floyd, oops, I always disliked them so I guess it doesn't count. Slow and boring and what does Dave Mason need two bass drums for?

*Nick Mason. What does Nick Mason need two bass drums for?

Dave Mason just disagrees.

 

[lossforgain]

The whole “working class hero” schtick of Bruce, and John Melon Cougarcamp, grew tired decades ago. Wearing worn out Levi’s and a jeanjacket doesn’t make you working class when you’re worth a half-billion.

Honestly I think the "working class hero" thing just made its way over to country music, where it's all about driving a truck down a dirt road with a pretty girl in her tight jeans listening to the radio up loud and drinking whiskey or beer. I'm serious...just take a listen to the common words and phrases in the top country songs.

 

[DrummBumm89]

Yep. Words have consequences. Especially when your name is attached to a product.

Not in the slightest upset or mad. Just was impressed that the industry as a whole just went "Yeah we aren't doing that here". Even the bassist publicly went against her.

 

[notINtheband]

Hilary Jones really ruined her career with a tweet one random day. Like the one throne guy Sucherman used to use, all the endorsements (and even some bands?) just noped out instantly.

Ok, until this post, I had never heard of Hilary Jones.
I pulled up a couple of YouTube videos and honestly she may be the best female drummer I have ever seen. Just wow!

Then I read a post by Tommy Igoe that blasted her for some post she made (I haven’t seen it), but if what he says about it is true, I don’t really care to ever check in on her or her playing again.

So again, I have difficulty separating the art from the artist. And in cases like this, I’m ok with that.

 

[Polska]

Ok, until this post, I had never heard of Hilary Jones.
I pulled up a couple of YouTube videos and honestly she may be the best female drummer I have ever seen. Just wow!

Then I read a post by Tommy Igoe that blasted her for some post she made (I haven’t seen it), but if what he says about it is true, I don’t really care to ever check in on her or her playing again.

So again, I have difficulty separating the art from the artist. And in cases like this, I’m ok with that.

Yeah, she killed it in a clinic I saw her at in the late 90's I believe. And yeah, I saw the post and then her doubling (and tripling) down on it and that was it for me. But people make their choices and everyone moves on.

 

[Squirrel Man]

Honestly I think the "working class hero" thing just made its way over to country music, where it's all about driving a truck down a dirt road with a pretty girl in her tight jeans listening to the radio up loud and drinking whiskey or beer. I'm serious...just take a listen to the common words and phrases in the top country songs.

Pop country for that reason is intolerable.

 

[Trommeslager]

 

[lossforgain]

Pop country for that reason is intolerable.

HEAR, HEAR

My daughter is into it so I hate when she’s in charge of the radio…

 

[cribbon]

I recently went to a Robert Fripp "talking tour" performance.Fripp said something illuminating like "if you want lose faith in the music you love,get to know the persons who made it..." ouch.

He must've been looking in the mirror when he said that. I've been around him a few times and I've never seen a more pretentious passive-aggressive in my life. And I like KC.