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I didn't expect it, but it feels like the first bit of normal I've experienced in a long time.
I totally get it. I hope concerts come back soon but winter...

There was a "protest" show in a dinky (<<=== I don't know what this is) town 15 minutes from us last weekend, small venue country band and I really wanted to go, badly but we didn't, there's a big surge going on around here and I live in a ghost town basically and she nixed it sort of.

Every summer we go to 3 or 4 headline venues, usually make a weekend out of it, camping or just staying in town. Saw Bon Jovi, Tool, Zombie, Manson, Dokken, OLP, Live, Bush, Godsmack, Shinedown (twice) over the last couple years. That was our summer thing, couple other bands I forget already but it's like mini vacations. Dinners, sushi, atomic bomb museum - always have a blast but this summer... feh!
 

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Lifelong Pittsburgh Steelers fan - grew up in Western PA. I’ll watch this year, but the game has gotten progressively worse. Touch someone the wrong way and it’s a flag. I miss the old days when it was good to hit the opposing QB.
Hockey is much more entertaining.
Exactly!!! I mean you’re supposed to keep the other team from scoring right???
 

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The new L.A. stadium $5B! Goodness... L.A. I guess finally has a football stadium for the stars. No judgement here, if ya got the money go for it.
It was stunning. Planning on an LA road trip when Baltimore plays there. On the flip side I think these new glitzy NFL stadiums may end up being an albatross. Unless the total cost of attendance lowers -- PSL, ticket, parking & concessions -- the home tv experience now dwarfs the stadium experience. I used to attend 4-5 Ravens games a year and overall loved the atmosphere and gameday experience. I was not a PSL owner, but bought tickets on the secondary market and would pay a premium for good ones. Take a marquee home game against The Steelers - 4 good seats will run north of $1K and that is not counting parking and concessions which adds another couple of hundred dollars. A quality OLED can now be purchased at a big box store for the cost of two games. The picture is amazing - you can see beads of sweat and individual blades of grass - live action pause - unlimited replay/rewind, flip between all games at commercials if you have Sunday Ticket or RedZone, no bathroom lines, 6 beers for the price of one small draft at the stadium, and not have to deal with the drunks at the end of the game (I have been to Ravens-Steelers games at both Heinz Field and M&T - and the walk out of the stadiums between alcohol soaked rival fans inevitably involve some level of scrum/fisticuffs). A lot of millennial and GenZ fans that I know do not aspire to be season ticket holders. They may attend a game or two as a novelty - but much prefer watching the game at home with a laptop on their knees and phone in hand for fantasy and live social media. I am friends with several folks in sports marketing and building a durable/sustainable business model for the live fan experience at stadiums new and old will be an ongoing struggle.
 

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:shock: You mean they use those stadiums for something other than Drum Corps?! :dontknow:

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I always wondered what those extra seats were for on the back sideline.
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It was stunning. Planning on an LA road trip when Baltimore plays there. On the flip side I think these new glitzy NFL stadiums may end up being an albatross. Unless the total cost of attendance lowers -- PSL, ticket, parking & concessions -- the home tv experience now dwarfs the stadium experience. I used to attend 4-5 Ravens games a year and overall loved the atmosphere and gameday experience. I was not a PSL owner, but bought tickets on the secondary market and would pay a premium for good ones. Take a marquee home game against The Steelers - 4 good seats will run north of $1K and that is not counting parking and concessions which adds another couple of hundred dollars. A quality OLED can now be purchased at a big box store for the cost of two games. The picture is amazing - you can see beads of sweat and individual blades of grass - live action pause - unlimited replay/rewind, flip between all games at commercials if you have Sunday Ticket or RedZone, no bathroom lines, 6 beers for the price of one small draft at the stadium, and not have to deal with the drunks at the end of the game (I have been to Ravens-Steelers games at both Heinz Field and M&T - and the walk out of the stadiums between alcohol soaked rival fans inevitably involve some level of scrum/fisticuffs). A lot of millennial and GenZ fans that I know do not aspire to be season ticket holders. They may attend a game or two as a novelty - but much prefer watching the game at home with a laptop on their knees and phone in hand for fantasy and live social media. I am friends with several folks in sports marketing and building a durable/sustainable business model for the live fan experience at stadiums new and old will be an ongoing struggle.
When the team is winning, tickets will remain in demand -- even though many buyers will be priced out. It's too valuable a tool in terms of bringing clients and business partners -- whether you run a small business or a major corporation.

I also think the in-person experience is so much better than watching at home... It's as different as having an actual human-to-human experience versus watching porn. The second one's close, but never close enough.

Millennials don't want season tickets because going to the game become a job -- you'll spend all week trying to find someone to buy your tickets. That's fine with the stadiums since individual tickets can mean more money for them.
 

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Good thought. One could also ask, what is a "soccer"? Why do they call it "cricket"? And on and on...
Soc in Soccer comes from Association, from Association Football, shortened to 'soc with -er added to the end, which was apparently a popular suffix to add onto things back in the day. Association Football as opposed to Rugby Football from which American Gridiron Football evolved.

At least that's what YouTube told me once, and it sounded legit.
 

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The major leagues have taken a political stand. Talking about them without acknowledging that seems very political to me. Ace
30% of the fan base gone. Elephant in the room. Not supposed to mention it. Feels weird. I'm pretty new here and haven't posted all that much so I don't think I'll be missed.
 

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This was an off topic about some of that like football, there was nothing in the OP's message about politics but every day I've had to delete posts. Obviously people can't follow the rules so this one is locked up. Sorry Bigbonzo, enjoy the football season.
 
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