I'm always after more photos so if you have pics of your 1965 Dixie they would be most welcome.thats a beautiful cymbal...definitely a B8... i have a 1965 NS 20" Dixie...totally different (btw it was my 1st cymbal)
Other than the info I posted above there is just a little bit of info in The Cymbal Book on pages 160 and 161.I’ve been playing Paiste exclusively since ‘85 and I have never heard of Dixie. Can someone tell me about its history?
I finally went looking and here are catalog images:Yes I had a Dixie MIJ drum set early 70s .
Thanks. I am on friendly terms with all cymbal companies but operate independently. No free cymbals, but good support for which I thank them. I sometimes recieve excellent historical info from cymbal companies, but more often I'm mindful that I prefer them to spend their time creating wonderful cymbals rather than answering my nerdy questions. And in the 1940s through 1970s they were just busy producing cymbals and not keeping that many paper records for the future. Who knew these things were even going to become collectable? I'm just one of a number of people trying to collect up info, so I also have a long list of fellow researchers to thank.I'm not a Paiste user, but I'm always interested in reading the research you guys have done. Excellent.
Just out of curiosity, does Paiste help you in any way, or have they simply kept no historical logs?
At only 1500 g for a 20 inch cymbal, I don't think it can be B8 (CuSn 8 ) alloy. NS12 (NiAg12) has a lower density and would explain the low weight for that size.
Interesting thread. Have seen a few Dixies' floating around used, some for very cheap.
Hey Zenstat,I'm always after more photos so if you have pics of your 1965 Dixie they would be most welcome.
I mentioned the unreliability of picking alloys from photos recently and gave some examples of what you are up against. With photos you have to consider lighting temperature and color balance and the difficulty of assessing color if you don't have some standardized color balance target in the frame. I've collected up some examples of how different the same cymbal alloy can look within a single frame
or in different photos of the same cymbals
and the effect of cleaning
As part of the general alloy section for Cymbal.wiki which will also include high spec PMI work on alloy samples from many different cymbals along with lower spec work which I've managed to collect up from different places over the years.
I'm not sure what was used to clean that one. I should probably have kept that in my notes. I've also seen at least one Youtube video where someboy have divided a cymbal into pie slices with tape and used different cleaners on different slices. Something else I don't think I kept a link to. I've experimented about with a few different cleaning products and there are lots of options either chemical based or abrasive based (or both). But I'm not even a big cymbal cleaner. It's just that I had a few which were really gunked up and I decided to see what a light cleaning did for them.Hey Zenstat,
Would you happen to know what was used to clean half of the cymbal pictured above? It's VERY effective!
(I've been using Bar Keepers Friend)
Thanks for letting me know,
You ain't just whistling Dixie, and that's the truth!My best guess would be to associate it with USA, jazz or Dixieland
Gretsch was also making a Dixieland snare around the same time
Can you dig it?