Paiste SCDR – Does repairing increase value?

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Hi all,

I came across a 22" Paiste Sound Creation Dark Ride on Reverb with some bad keyholing. Obviously, this has diminished the value of it greatly, albeit being a highly desirable cymbal.

My question is, would the value increase from where it is if it were repaired and restored? Obviously, it wouldn't return to its full value. Still, it would be interesting to try and get it back into acceptable condition either to keep for me or sell to someone that would be interested in having such a rare cymbal.

Thoughts? I'm curious what people think about this particular subject.
 

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This one? https://reverb.com/p/paiste-22-soun...n=6445914847&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google

That's not keyholed, that's busted to $hit, probably from the stand being knocked over, maybe more than once. To me that's stupid price for that kind of damaged cymbal.
How are you going to repair that Damage?
It is pretty busted, but keep in mind the SCDR goes for $800-1100 in good condition, so to find one even damaged at this price is pretty good. I was thinking of filing out the gouges and make a bigger rounded hole, and restoring the finish to like-new condition.

I'm thinking of it as kind of a quarantine pet project.
 

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That's a... That's not going to kill too much of the sound (may improve it ; ) if you always wanted one there it is
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You 'could' just 'round' the teeth off :D so it doesn't dig into the sleeve (lol)
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already 1 offer he knows what he has
 

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See if you can find someone who can put a washer in the hole for you.
If so. Cool

Then I would offer $150.
But only if I heard it first in person and loved the sound
 

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That's a... That's not going to kill too much of the sound (may improve it ; ) if you always wanted one there it is
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7th picture is wrong; of a Traditional)
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You 'could' just 'round' the teeth off :D so it doesn't dig into the sleeve (lol)
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already 1 offer he knows what he has
I know who the offer is from. ;)

It's still a little too high so I might pass on it. Very interesting considering the rarity of these cymbals. I can almost imagine the guy that finds an old classic car and fixes it up.
 
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IF, and that's a very big "if" that was Berrios' old one, I have played it, and it sounds good. When I played it, it was on a stand with a felt, so I didn't even know about this "damage." But I sat in on a one of his gigs, and remember him having a SCDR, so I assume it was this one (unless he had more, which I doubt) and it sounded good. However, I have no idea who the seller is, and the veracity of the provenance of this cymbal.

He was a good guy and a GREAT player!
MSG
 

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That’s overpriced if you ask me. I think I paid $575 for a non-ND version in near-perfect condition just a couple years back. $800-$1100 is a pipe dream.

That said, with all the metal on these things, that much missing won’t affect the sound all that much.
 

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How much do the Grombels shrink the diameter of the stem hole; Do they allow a fit on cymbal stand or what
The catch with Grombals are that you remove your existing cymbal sleeve. Most of the time, you pair the Grombal with the "Cymbal Chief," which replaces your bottom felt and washer.
 

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It is pretty busted, but keep in mind the SCDR goes for $800-1100 in good condition, so to find one even damaged at this price is pretty good. I was thinking of filing out the gouges and make a bigger rounded hole, and restoring the finish to like-new condition.

I'm thinking of it as kind of a quarantine pet project.
- I'd view it more as a waste of money. That bell is not going to hold up and you can probably forget about selling it to anyone else. Save your money.
 

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O come on it's not that bad.;) not at all
no sound emanating 1/4" from stem hole that's perceptible (haha
worst part about that cymbal is chewing up cymbal stand how you compensate for that; easy vacuum hose on the stem + 20 other ways))) shave the points down on the mini-micro breaks fractures)
Plus who wants a 22SCDR anyway (;) ;)
gotta be part-maso-chist anyway) Ha~!
 
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One of those in excellent condition, a 20"....... sold for $350 right here this past week.
 


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