Paypal "gift option"

[drawtheline55]

Hi, it has come to our (the mods) attention that some sellers request the paypal"gift" option when purchasing an item.

We highly frown on and do not approve this. It is not right and the buyer has no protection, in the rare event it might be needed.

In fact, going forward if we see that in an ad, the ad will be pulled.

One simple solution is to simply split the fee, and all is good. Plus it is free to sell here.

Thanks, Ben and the DFO team.

 

[ayryq]

As a buyer I've always just added the fee on and then not used paypal gift. I use this website (http://gregledet.net/ppfcm.html) to calculate how much to add so the seller gets their asking price. Technically PayPal requires the fee to come from the seller, not the buyer (same as credit card companies do not typically permit shops to add on a credit-card fee). Sellers can use the same website (or another like it) to set an asking price "including paypal fees."

 

[712drummer]

Good Policy Ben. I think most of the members prefer it this way.

 

[fatchoppers]

If its free to sell on here whats the big deal for the selller to pay a 2.9 fee. It should be included in the selling price. Jmo.

 

[fatchoppers]

If both parties agree to gift option then no harm no foul

 

[Tinman]

If both parties agree to gift option then no harm no foul

That is not true. It violates PayPal's policy. Follow the rules there and here.

 

[fatchoppers]

If both parties agree to gift option then no harm no foul

That is not true. It violates PayPal's policy. Follow the rules there and here.

Then seller pays 2.9 Percent end of story. PayPal rules

 

[Fat Drummer]

Good policy and I appreciate the idea, but it pretty much fell on deaf ears here for many. Come on guys, put the total amount you want for your item into the price and be done.

I am only speaking for myself and your free to call me an idiot (you would not be the first one today), but I walk away from listing that say "plus PP fees"... I'm going to cover myself as a buyer and your telling me that's fine by you, but your not willing to offer me the protection yourself. Put in in the value of your item and I'm none the wiser.

OK, my rant is done and I will go eat lunch.... I think Im just Hangry!

 

[idrum4fun]

This has been brought up many times! I just leave it up to the buyer as to how they want to pay. As an example, I recently sold a complete Swivomatic single tom holder assembly, with brackets, to a great forum member. We agreed on a price and I sent an invoice. This member had already said that he wanted to "gift" me an additional amount to cover the fees. How cool is that?! After receiving his invoice payment, I then received his "gift" payment. Bottom line, I leave payment options to the buyer.

-Mark

 

[michiganice91]

Then seller pays 2.9 Percent end of story. PayPal rules

The seller pays for BUYER protection? How does that make any sense?

 

[Polska]

Still a better deal than doing business on Ebay.

 

[fatchoppers]

The seller pays for BUYER protection? How does that make any sense?

PayPal charges 2.9 percent to use there service on sales . I wish it was free but it’s not. It may even be more now

 

[michiganice91]

PayPal charges 2.9 percent to use there service on sales . I wish it was free but it’s not. It may even be more now

Yes plus $0.30 per transaction as well I believe. I understand this completely, but the fee they charge is explicitly for BUYER protection as I understand it. Therefore it stands to reason the BUYER should pay for BUYER protection.

 

[dustjacket]

Yes plus $0.30 per transaction as well I believe. I understand this completely, but the fee they charge is explicitly for BUYER protection as I understand it. Therefore it stands to reason the BUYER should pay for BUYER protection.

Just add 3% into your asking price. Do you expect PayPal to be a free service? Regardless if it's for buyer or not, they're a business.

 

[michiganice91]

Just add 3% into your asking price. Do you expect PayPal to be a free service? Regardless if it's for buyer or not, they're a business.

I wouldn't complain if they stopped profiting. In my opinion PayPal is a horrible company loaded with hidden fees and complicated policies. I could care less if they make money. Just my opinion...

For the record Zelle is completely free

 

[dustjacket]

There's plenty of horrible companies. The gift option is Russian roulette.

 

[michiganice91]

There's plenty of horrible companies. The gift option is Russian roulette.

Well that IS true. I don't think the gift option is Russian roulette if you have a good idea of who you're sending to. But either way I'm totally cool if buyers want to have buyer protection I just think the buyer should pay for that.

 

[bongomania]

They DO if you follow the RULES of this forum and common sense.

 

[michiganice91]

They DO if you follow the RULES of this forum and common sense.

Well, NO they don't always, which is why I'm having this discussion in the first place.

The rule/guideline of the forum states that PayPal sales should be conducted in a payment for goods/services style and not a gift to friends/family style. It doesn't say anything about whose responsibility it is to cover the cost of using paypal with a fee option.

 

[Mongrel]

Well, NO they don't always, which is why I'm having this discussion in the first place.

The rule/guideline of the forum states that PayPal sales should be conducted in a payment for goods/services style and not a gift to friends/family style. It doesn't say anything about whose responsibility it is to cover the cost of using paypal with a fee option.

I think I may have stumbled upon the problem.

You must be using a different brand Paypal than me.

Because I have never, as a buyer or a seller, paid for "buyer protection".

In fact, I have never even seen an option to pay for "buyer protection".

Glad I can finally put this behind me!