pre serial 20" Paiste 602 med. ride

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Well dangit Benny. I have one for sale on here. Wish I'd seen this earlier. If you need another....
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I have one of the reissue 602 20" medium rides,,,, I wouldn't use it for every gig but for the right gigs its brilliant,,,,I'll be keeping mine, a great option to have in the cymbal bag.
Lots of folks reckon the reissue is every bit as good as the vintage ones,,, cant confirm this personally,,, any one else ?
 

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Cymbal sounds excellent, and the phone picked up your kit very well. Sounds great!
That isn't by the Keemah boardwalk, S of Houston, is it?
 

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I have one of the reissue 602 20" medium rides,,,, I wouldn't use it for every gig but for the right gigs its brilliant,,,,I'll be keeping mine, a great option to have in the cymbal bag.
Lots of folks reckon the reissue is every bit as good as the vintage ones,,, cant confirm this personally,,, any one else ?
I've got a bunch of vintage ones, and the modern one I owned (24" MEDIUM RIDE 4000g) and others I've played fit in just fine. I only sold that one because a vintage 3205g 24" showed up and kicked the heavy one off the stand - I don't need that kind of volume in my dining-room-playing-for-my-dogs gigs.

Sonically, I've played vintage examples that sounded more different from each other than from these modern ones. While I'd love to see some weirder sizes & weights, these are worthy of being considered a "continuation" as opposed to a "reissue".
 

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Oh wow. I wasn't even close. It looks like you're playing in front of a giant palm tree.
I was up in that neck of the woods this past weekend.
Anyway, I can't get over how nice your kit sounds. Killer vocals as well.
What do you have set up? (besides the 602)
 

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I have always read so much about 602's. Last year I picked up a 22" ride in excellent condition on ebay for around $200. Had the grams I was looking for. I don't know. It had nothing special any other B20 medium ride doesn't have. It was just kind of boring. I relathed the underside 5" towards the edge and turned it into a crash-ride. Sounds pretty cool now. Very explosive but, not the typical gongy sound rides can give.
 

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I have always read so much about 602's. Last year I picked up a 22" ride in excellent condition on ebay for around $200. Had the grams I was looking for. I don't know. It had nothing special any other B20 medium ride doesn't have. It was just kind of boring. I relathed the underside 5" towards the edge and turned it into a crash-ride. Sounds pretty cool now. Very explosive but, not the typical gongy sound rides can give.
That sounds cool.

Any pics of the lathing?
 

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That sounds cool.

Any pics of the lathing?
If the pics list as I seem them in my window the first is the 602 underside with a flash, the second, natural light. Because I don't use a typical cymbal lathe with backer I have to be more careful with my bits (which I just hold by hand, btw). As you can see by the coloration I took more off in the last 4 outer inches. I tend to get "chattering" without backer material, which you can see in the final 1". I don't mind it at all. The entire surface had material removed. Then I concentrated on those 4-5", then that last 1."

The third picture is of a UFIP Class xtra light ride, which I also wanted to be more crash ride-like. What you see in that pic is what I call a basket weave pattern. When I take off the grams I want and am satisfied with the sound, I take my bit and just go back and forth at random.

The fourth picture is of a reworked Sabian SR. If you have seen them they have a very distinct surface. The cymbal was fairly dry and lifeless to me. You never know what you get with those models. I just lathed it to a typical lathing pattern. It's a really nice Jazz ride now, at least, to my ears.

I've been doing this for years. It has its drawbacks but, thankfully I usually have more success than failure.

If I had a real lathe and backing material you'd never get me out of the shop, experimenting. :)
 

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If the pics list as I seem them in my window the first is the 602 underside with a flash, the second, natural light. Because I don't use a typical cymbal lathe with backer I have to be more careful with my bits (which I just hold by hand, btw). As you can see by the coloration I took more off in the last 4 outer inches. I tend to get "chattering" without backer material, which you can see in the final 1". I don't mind it at all. The entire surface had material removed. Then I concentrated on those 4-5", then that last 1."

The third picture is of a UFIP Class xtra light ride, which I also wanted to be more crash ride-like. What you see in that pic is what I call a basket weave pattern. When I take off the grams I want and am satisfied with the sound, I take my bit and just go back and forth at random.

The fourth picture is of a reworked Sabian SR. If you have seen them they have a very distinct surface. The cymbal was fairly dry and lifeless to me. You never know what you get with those models. I just lathed it to a typical lathing pattern. It's a really nice Jazz ride now, at least, to my ears.

I've been doing this for years. It has its drawbacks but, thankfully I usually have more success than failure.

If I had a real lathe and backing material you'd never get me out of the shop, experimenting. :)
Cool! Nice work and thanks for sharing!
 

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Benny I own a reissue 20" medium Ride.. It's all I ever use.. The 21" 2oo2 Ride ( original NTO "big beat" ) still gets a whirl rho sometimes..
602 is my dream Ride!¡
Gery
 

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I had an old 22 that seemed on the heavier side. It rang out forever. Didn’t like it. I imagine there are others that I’d like. Guess there was some variation among the vintage ones.
 


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