Quiet cymbal

mark2456

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I need a “QUIET” ride cymbal. I’m playing in a very unforgiving room, the acoustics are terrible. At the present time I’m using a Zildjian K Con medium thin low 20” or a Zildjian trans stamp 18”. Even after trying different types of muffling and using all the technique I know these two cymbals just overpower the room. So educate me on what type, size, brand and weight to look for.
 

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I would also agree on a flat ride. I have a Bosphorus Turk 19" flat ride that has great stick definition but limited "wash" and with my small ball tips sticks it is perfect for low volume acoustic gigs.
 

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I use an 18" Paiste Traditional Light Flat Ride for the lowest volume situations, paid $130 through eBay in 2013. I also have a 20" Soultone Custom Flat Ride for slightly louder situations, got it from Amazon a few years ago for only $85. Flat rides are definitely the way to go when you need an inherently quiet cymbal.
 
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I have a Sabian 22” HHX Omni in the for sale section that may fit the bill with your Ks. I dig it but it is quieter than I’d prefer.
 

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I have a 21" Bosphorus Master Vintage that is perfect when volume is a concern. It gets out of the way quickly, without an overwhelming build-up of wash. I'm looking to sell it, so reach out if interested.
 
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The Paiste Master 22" thin is worth checking out. It's washy, dark, and pretty quiet. Volume wise close to my 2002 and 3000 flat.
 

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My quiet go to cymbals are a 20” K custom flat ride (credit to those above for highlighting flat rides) and my Kerope 20” & 22” rides. I was thinking about getting rid of my Keropes because of how quiet they are, but they are perfect when I’m in a situation similar to what you’re describing.

I agree with you on the K Con side, mine can be overpowering sometimes even with the lightest touch.... except for the 22” K Con Renaissance - if you want to keep it in the family give that one a try (but certainly more of a wash than a flat ride, at least I’ve found with mine).
 

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I would use a 602 flat myself, but I also remember one band member calling a loud cymbals. Maybe because of the high-end; it was in a very bright sounding room.

Maybe something partly lathed or unlathed, Bos Masters Vintage? I usually think an unlathed flat ride defies the purpose of a cymbal in general, since it produces so little sound apart from the click of the stick, but it might be the quietest you can find - outside those low-volume perforated cymbals.
 

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Paiste used to make the Signature Mellow line. I'll use the crash if I don't want so loud.
I'm not sure if they're still making them, but I believe they are. It's definitely not as loud, nor does it sustain as long. The ride may be something to check out
 

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I have a 20" Zildjian K Custom Dry Light that is very nice for low volume situations. Defined ping and a small, but good sounding bell. In a similar vein: Zildjian 18" Uptown or Breakbeat rides.
Keropes are wonderful as well.
The Sabian XS20 Monarch, if you can find one, is a very quiet cymbal, pretty flat ride sounding, but with the benefit of a bell.
 

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