Removing paint from drum wrap

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I have an early 1960s Gretsch RB 12, 14, 20 kit (Progressive Jazz). I got it at a good price because it has been painted maroon. It is WMP underneath. Now, I have been thinking of trying to remove the paint from the wrap.

I have read about people having done this with graffiti removal products like Motsenbocker's lift off nr 4. However, I live in Sweden and am having big problems finding equivalent products here. Motsenbocker's product range does not seem to be offered in Europe, and having it shipped to Sweden from the US is prohibitively expensive.

Any other ideas for products available in the EU would be greatly appreciated.

Best,

Magnus
 

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I removed black spray paint from a drum wrap and it came out great. I used Acetone in the can. You've got to be careful with it, though, it's very strong. Use thick gloves or multi-layered nitrile gloves to protect your skin, and use it in well ventilated area, preferably outdoors. Try not to breathe it in. Do it in sections at a time to minimize exposure to it, or it may make you light-headed and feel like crap. Anyway, it worked well. After it removes the paint, I'd use a nice plastic polish on it to remove Acetone residual and give it a nice safe shine. Hope that helps.
 

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Magnus,

If you got a good deal on the set, why not just rip the old wrap off and rewrap in whatever color you like best? You'll end up with a MUCH better looking set. Trying to get maroon paint off of WMP sounds like it would never will look white again to me.

Spend $400 on new wrap from Precision and have a brand new looking set!!
 

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retrosonic said:
Magnus,

If you got a good deal on the set, why not just rip the old wrap off and rewrap in whatever color you like best? You'll end up with a MUCH better looking set. Trying to get maroon paint off of WMP sounds like it would never will look white again to me.

Spend $400 on new wrap from Precision and have a brand new looking set!!
retrosonic, that is actually what I am thinking of doing some time in the future. That would also make it possible to repair the big hole for tom mounts in the bass drum.

I'd love this kit in Black Nitro. Or WMP...

But I don't think I could do this myself, neither the rewrap, nor the repair work on the bass.

/Magnus
 

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Hi guys ,
I have a 50's radio king tom that has been painted over black. I'm trying to save the wrap underneath (gold sparkle) but it seems as though every product I've used, including the 3m safest stripper (which i had to order from the states as i'm in Canada... i have the same problem as magnus in that ordering the Motsenbocker's lift off is super pricey) is either ineffective or has made the wrap soft/ gummy and now I've dug into the wrap a bit unfortunately. super frustrating as you all know. it was a military drum and i'm wondering what the hell kind of paint this could possible be ...lacquer thinner doesn't seem to work ...i'm totally frustrated and at a loss. i feel like i could save it if i put in a bunch more work... any help would appreciated. thanks very much!

also...any help on possibly restoring the wrap would be great if i can manage to get all the paint off ...
what would i use to re-coat the wrap?
 

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I removed black spray paint from a drum wrap and it came out great. I used Acetone in the can. You've got to be careful with it, though, it's very strong. Use thick gloves or multi-layered nitrile gloves to protect your skin, and use it in well ventilated area, preferably outdoors. Try not to breathe it in. Do it in sections at a time to minimize exposure to it, or it may make you light-headed and feel like crap. Anyway, it worked well. After it removes the paint, I'd use a nice plastic polish on it to remove Acetone residual and give it a nice safe shine. Hope that helps.
I also have a kit sprayed over black.
I have a "Bradley" stencil kit. 12", 13" mounted toms and 14" floor tom.20" bass drum. No snare. I got it for 80 dollars. And it's not worth re wrapping since it's a stencil kit. With no bottom rims including bass drum.so edges need work.
But the one bass drum hoop has gold sparkle.
It would be worth trying to get the paint off since I've never seen another Bradley kit.
I know Bradley brand made guitars but I don't know if it's the same company.

So "notnowhamelin" if you are successful plz updated.
I will do the same after trying what "dbreaker" did.
 

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My 99535 Ludwig WMP 14 floor tom 2.jpg
I finished this WMP 14x14 floor tom recently. It turned out well but was a TON of work and I am not excited about doing another one anytime soon. For me, removing the wrap was never an option though. I was trying to bring it back to its former glory. I used the graffiti remover, some polish compound and then several rounds of Novus.
99535 WMP after.jpg
 

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View attachment 390139 I finished this WMP 14x14 floor tom recently. It turned out well but was a TON of work and I am not excited about doing another one anytime soon. For me, removing the wrap was never an option though. I was trying to bring it back to its former glory. I used the graffiti remover, some polish compound and then several rounds of Novus.View attachment 390138
It's the same for me, rewrapping is not worth it.the kit is a cheap mij stencil,so I need to try what you did, if that doesn't work on mine , I'll try the acetone.ive got 2 mounted toms and a floor tom to experiment on.
I would give the kit away but I've never seen a kit with this badge before and I've searched a lot.... So it's worth trying to bring back the gold sparkle wrap underneath, cheaply.
Thx for the info, I will buy soon and update if it worked.
Thx again , Jeff
 

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Update ...I tried the graffiti stripper today. It works very slowly. Seems you have to apply many times per area , getting down layer by layer.until the wrap.
Here's my pic from today.
 

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Anther update as the project continues...
This is the bass drum.. I've got 7 hours into it over 2 days.
As I am getting more familiar with working the graffiti remover.
I try a different brand on the bass drum...a spray bottle I got from lowes, it works quicker , probably because of the applicator .

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I've been spraying it on, leaving for 20 sec or so then rubbing it in, then spraying more overtop so as to keep it wet.
I do this no more than 2 minutes.
Wipe off then spray again , wait,then use a plastic putty knife (also from lowes) and scrape off.
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Once you start seeing the wrap underneath, Be careful as to work areas for a limited time , to allow to dry or you get gel wrap.
As you see I'm moving around on the drum , doing parts here and there, so the previous area can dry.

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It's working slowly, and because I've never done this before , I'm being cautious .
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I'll post pics of the brands of stripper I'm using, next time I update thread.
 
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Hi guys ,
I have a 50's radio king tom that has been painted over black. I'm trying to save the wrap underneath (gold sparkle) but it seems as though every product I've used, including the 3m safest stripper (which i had to order from the states as i'm in Canada... i have the same problem as magnus in that ordering the Motsenbocker's lift off is super pricey) is either ineffective or has made the wrap soft/ gummy and now I've dug into the wrap a bit unfortunately. super frustrating as you all know. it was a military drum and i'm wondering what the hell kind of paint this could possible be ...lacquer thinner doesn't seem to work ...i'm totally frustrated and at a loss. i feel like i could save it if i put in a bunch more work... any help would appreciated. thanks very much!

also...any help on possibly restoring the wrap would be great if i can manage to get all the paint off ...
what would i use to re-coat the wrap?
I'm having success , keep checking this post as I update.
I will also update what brands I use and post pics of the bottles.
I've tried 2 different strippers so far and both work, just very slowly.
You need lots of rags,and a plastic putty knife.
 

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I have an early 1960s Gretsch RB 12, 14, 20 kit (Progressive Jazz). I got it at a good price because it has been painted maroon. It is WMP underneath. Now, I have been thinking of trying to remove the paint from the wrap.

I have read about people having done this with graffiti removal products like Motsenbocker's lift off nr 4. However, I live in Sweden and am having big problems finding equivalent products here. Motsenbocker's product range does not seem to be offered in Europe, and having it shipped to Sweden from the US is prohibitively expensive.

Any other ideas for products available in the EU would be greatly appreciated.

Best,

Magnus
Try anything that says graffiti remover on it.
Keep an eye on this post as my project continues. It may help you.
 

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