premierplayer
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Do all renown's have "Renown" on the badge?
I'm going to look at a used kit and need some Gretsch education.
I'm going to look at a used kit and need some Gretsch education.
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Renown education, please
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The very first Renowns had the pewter colored square badge minus the "usa" on each size. This was sort of a catch all badge for early imported Gretsch. Those initial Renowns also had triple flange hoops. The Renown 57 drums didn't have a badge, just the white aluminum chevron with "Gretsch" debossed in it.
premierplayer
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Ok, so are all renown's maple shells?
And were they all lacquer finished, not wraps?
And were they all lacquer finished, not wraps?
no, some were wrapped; they had a funky Frog green Swirl
all maple- no cross pollinating-species
You'll know them when you see them'
Grey sprayed interiors;
all maple- no cross pollinating-species
You'll know them when you see them'
Grey sprayed interiors;
premierplayer
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Thanks, ad says black wrap.
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I think all the black renowns were lacquer.
Here's the Very 1st set. Was one configuration. 18 (long) 12/14/snare.
That was the first that 5-Star dealers got.
then it expanded.
Here's the pretty much 1st catalog appearance. PDF
finishes page 31 Piano Black
That was the first that 5-Star dealers got.
2005 small Print Ad of Gretsch Renown Maple Bebop Walnut Gloss Drum Kit | eBay
Condition, nothing less. We are collectors first ! I have no information when it will arrive or where it is. We work very hard to find you the best material for your collections. All of our ads are in "EXCELLENT ".
www.ebay.com
then it expanded.
Here's the pretty much 1st catalog appearance. PDF
finishes page 31 Piano Black
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cochlea
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There was a Renown Purewood series that offered shells made of different woods, such as hickory, wenge, oak, and beech.
that's what I meant; altho we just posted here " the Import sealer isn't the same as the USA sealer"
and 2.
What OP is looking at aren't looking like Renowns but Blackhawks
and 2.
What OP is looking at aren't looking like Renowns but Blackhawks
I only have a few of them. One is an 8x10 tom that has red sparkle lacquer into a black fade. Killer color but unfortunately it's a single drum. It has two square badges that have vent holes in the middle.The other one is a 14x16 FT in black lacquer I converted to a bass drum with hoops and a rail mount. It has the small round Renown badge with two Allen key mount screws and a large vent hole by itself. Both have the silver sealer inside. They are really nice drums. I think a tad thicker and definitely heavier than round badge drums. Both are maple plies.
premierplayer
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Thanks guys and Joe for helping sort this out. I'm pretty confident these are not Renown's.
When it looks/sounds too good to be true, it usually is.
Seller has droped out of communication with me after I asked for additional pictures.
Have a look, what do you think?
GRETSCH Renown Drumset - musical instruments - by owner - sale
Gretsch Renown 5 piece drum kit. 22" Bass,12" and 13" mounted toms and 16" floor tom and a 14x5" Sonor snare,all black wrap in color. The set shows some wear Scratches for their age but for the...
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At 400% magnification it looks like this badge to me, Catalina.
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Matched Gripper
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Don’t know much about Gretsch history, but, didn’t Gretsch make Renown and Broadkaster lines decades ago, pre Jasper era?
Drdrumdude3009
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Thanks guys and Joe for helping sort this out. I'm pretty confident these are not Renown's.
When it looks/sounds too good to be true, it usually is.
Seller has droped out of communication with me after I asked for additional pictures.
Have a look, what do you think?
GRETSCH Renown Drumset - musical instruments - by owner - sale
Gretsch Renown 5 piece drum kit. 22" Bass,12" and 13" mounted toms and 16" floor tom and a 14x5" Sonor snare,all black wrap in color. The set shows some wear Scratches for their age but for the...delaware.craigslist.org
At 400% magnification it looks like this badge to me, Catalina.
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If he dropped, he either figured out you were onto him or he sold. Either way, too good to be true.
That is the badge used on early Renowns...but that's not a Renown.Thanks guys and Joe for helping sort this out. I'm pretty confident these are not Renown's.
When it looks/sounds too good to be true, it usually is.
Seller has droped out of communication with me after I asked for additional pictures.
Have a look, what do you think?
GRETSCH Renown Drumset - musical instruments - by owner - sale
Gretsch Renown 5 piece drum kit. 22" Bass,12" and 13" mounted toms and 16" floor tom and a 14x5" Sonor snare,all black wrap in color. The set shows some wear Scratches for their age but for the...delaware.craigslist.org
At 400% magnification it looks like this badge to me, Catalina.
View attachment 567466
The easiest thing to do when browsing at these kits.. Check that the kick has 10 lugs each side if it is a 22".
Renowns also never had metal hoops from the factory. I don't think even Catalina had those.
premierplayer
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You guys have a lot better eyes than I.
I can see the guy has a crap yard
That grass don't look like KO's
I can see the guy has a crap yard
That grass don't look like KO's
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Those look like the early Catalina Elite before they changed the badge. I saw a similar used kit at Guitar Center one day and almost bought it since the lugs were the regular full sized Gretsch lugs (I figured for $300 it was worth it for the hardware). It had the same Gretsch badge without the “USA” or “Catalina”. The shells were luan or something similar.
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