Repairing Rogers B&B Lugs

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I'm working on this now - luckily it's only 3 busted tabs and cracked lugs, and the rest is just better-safe-than-sorry reinforcing, but the tabs are giving me fits. JB Weld isn't working for me at all. I got a dremel in there and got the back of the tab level, and roughed up both mating surfaces, and I'm getting about a rubber-cement-level bond. Just pops off threading the screw in with my fingers.

Any advice?
 

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CaptainCrunch said:
I'm working on this now - luckily it's only 3 busted tabs and cracked lugs, and the rest is just better-safe-than-sorry reinforcing, but the tabs are giving me fits. JB Weld isn't working for me at all. I got a dremel in there and got the back of the tab level, and roughed up both mating surfaces, and I'm getting about a rubber-cement-level bond. Just pops off threading the screw in with my fingers.

Any advice?
The JB Weld is used only for properly locating and setting the nut when repairing a broken tab. It's not strong enough to take any pressure from use, but, since it's liquid, it makes it easy to fix the nut in the proper place. Once the JB Weld sets, you'll need to model the Propoxy 20 around it. Once the Propoxy is hardened, you've got an unbreakable, threaded nut in place.
 

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How much epoxy is needed to do a four piece kit 13, 16, 22 and 14?
 

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I think you'll need at least two rolls of propoxy for a standard-lug kit. I did a 13-20-14x5 center-lug Spotlite kit, and a 13-22 center-lug Mayfair, with an eight lug snare still to go. I think I'm on my third roll. Cut it thin, roll it to mix, you've got about four minutes per slice to get it all in place.

John
 

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levelpebble said:
I think you'll need at least two rolls of propoxy for a standard-lug kit. I did a 13-20-14x5 center-lug Spotlite kit, and a 13-22 center-lug Mayfair, with an eight lug snare still to go. I think I'm on my third roll. Cut it thin, roll it to mix, you've got about four minutes per slice to get it all in place.

John
Awesome thank you for the help I bought four rolls hope its enough!
 

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Wish me luck fellas, I've got a 12/16/22 kit getting prepped for the reinforcement process! The 16 and 12 both don't have a single cracked lug, which is wonderful, but the bass drum is going to be a trip.

Fingers crossed!
 

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Bump! 10 years and 9 months on my reinforced B&B lugs. Yeah!
 
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I just picked up a Cleveland Luxor snare and it has 5 B&B's - all cracked! One of them has the entire top missing. BTW, the 6th lug is a Gretsch - yes, there's an extra hole! ^%$#@!
 

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Bump! 11 years on my strengthened B&B lugs. Drums always stored under tension, no issues.
 

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I recently acquired a Rogers snare with several cracked B&B lugs. I'm up for the epoxy repair method tommykat1 has laid out here. Only problem is the photos; I'm just able to see the blurred versions of them.

thanks,
Steve
 

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I recently acquired a Rogers snare with several cracked B&B lugs. I'm up for the epoxy repair method tommykat1 has laid out here. Only problem is the photos; I'm just able to see the blurred versions of them.

thanks,
Steve
Dang, Steve, thanks for reminding me. I need to get on this!
 

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Steve, I uploaded the photos. PM me if you have questions on the process.
Many thanks! I can see the photos now and am looking forward to starting the repair process. My wife surprised with with a Rogers snare in the Mardi Gras wrap. Most, if not all, of the lugs have cracks.
 

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Many thanks! I can see the photos now and am looking forward to starting the repair process. My wife surprised with with a Rogers snare in the Mardi Gras wrap. Most, if not all, of the lugs have cracks.
Be careful when removing the fasteners, as twisting the screws can break the tabs. After all, assume they've been in place for over 50 years. Best to use some penetrating oil or liquid graphite before attempting the removal. Even WD-40 should work. Not a lot, but let it soak in for an hour or so.
 

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Be careful when removing the fasteners, as twisting the screws can break the tabs. After all, assume they've been in place for over 50 years. Best to use some penetrating oil or liquid graphite before attempting the removal. Even WD-40 should work. Not a lot, but let it soak in for an hour or so.
Thanks for the info. Fortunately all lugs were removed with the tabs intact so I just need to repair cracks. My ProPoxy arrived today so I’ll be starting this week.
 

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I've fallen in love with the sound of my 63 Rogers set. I don't see any cracks yet, but it sounds like they can "go" at any time. So I guess I've got a project laid out for me now. LOL
 


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