It was enjoyable seeing you argue with a drummer who actually played for one of The Beatles.Oh well, I’ll let you fellas have your little Ringo Starr circle jerk back.
It was fun stoping in and watching the degree of logical fallacy and sophistry some of you had to stoop to in an attempt to avoid just posting some videos of Starkey actually playing his most iconic post Revolver drum parts.
Ok Joe, be Cool man (see what I did there)"And the notion that Paul was anywhere nearly as proficient as Ringo is just plain silly. "
i did not make that claim because i dont agree with it,... you somehow created that on your own.
i mentioned ringo appeared open and receptive to pauls input .and i had never known that before.
but i did know that paul liked to musically direct or perhaps even control other players.
when i put those two together i then began to wonder how much paul actually led and ringo followed.
but never did i wonder who was the better drummer. now if you want to get into that whole ringo charlie thing , put me down for ringo.
It's a shame we're even discussing this aspect. My whole career I've enjoyed trying to realise someone else's vision, whether it's a song writer, an artist or a producer. I've never been any good at coming up with inventive or innovative drum parts. I think drummer's add more to a performance or a recording than just being 'inventive'. As it happens, Ringo was always extremely inventive.But it makes sense that Paul and John directed Ringo and probably George early on, on the songs they wrote.
That story was what made me go check out his tempo specifically. Close you eyes, try to forget you're listening to Ringo or The Beatles, and try to pretend you're just listening to another drummer....then it hits you. Swing for days, without pushing the tempo. Easy to say; impossible to do.Before the advent of click tracks, George Martin would often edit between two or three takes of a song, which sounded seamless.
Wait a minute, I thought that was a Conspiracy Theory, now you’re saying it’s true?You only keep harping on 'video evidence' because you know it mostly doesn't exist.