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Robert Plant and Alison Krauss Hasten the Death of "Rock and Roll"

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They are coming this year to a TINY amphitheater usually used for seniors in my area. Not sure what to think, maybe it will be a huge win to see him more intimately? dunno
Absolutely. I'd be snapping up a tickets.. you'll have more chance of actually hearing something coming from the stage rather than a PA.
 

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Robert Plant's wife is a far more talented musician than he is. I would paddle my canoe down the bayou to listen to jazz fest, caught several of his performances. Meh.
You just took the wind off the back of my canoe.
 

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Apologies. His partner (former?) Is/was Patty Griffin. Folk singer songwriter. She's about as good as it gets in her genre. I didn't grow up in the 70's. Zeppelin is great. The best members of the band are John Paul Jones and Bonham. Singers barely qualify as musicians and Jimmy page is fine. I don't think Robert Plant would be remarkable outside of being in Zeppelin. I can't name any of his solo work. He's a legacy act. Always had been. Nothing progressive or worth bothering to pay attention to.
Where’s a video of you onstage Doc ?
 

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The initial complaint also reveals an over-simplification of Led Zeppelin's accomplishments. Sure they could play loud, amped up, balls to the wall rock and roll, but there are plenty of examples in their catalogue of more acoustic based music which strays less far from the blues, folk and country roots that inspired them than some of their more "classic rock" tunes. Zeppelin 3 is a great example of this, where aside from Immigrant Song and maybe Celebration Day, they're playing some pretty rootsy stuff. Heck, Tangerine is practically country with what sounds like a killer pedal steel, and not too far from what Plant/Krauss are currently doing.

I love Bonham and all those classic Zeppelin tunes, I taught myself to drum largely by listening and playing along to them. However, the ones that have stuck with me over the years have been the ones where the band shows a bit of restraint. Never gave Ten Years Gone the time of day as a young teen, but it's outlasted the more bombastic numbers in my listening rotation, as have a bunch of their more acoustic tunes.

If anything, I'd say Plant is coming around full circle, highlighting the early rock and roll that inspired the band so much, and perhaps paying dues and respects when at the height of Zep there was little to no acknowledgement of the origins/source material they were so taken with taking.
 

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I laugh whenever I see these type of comments.
So young musicians are supposed to play for love, not money. Go through all kinds of tough personal situations to stay full time in music. Then when they are 'old' they are supposed to lose all that passion and drive.
I'm pretty sure this Krause/Plant band are NOT $100,00,000+ and they don't sound to me anything like 'phoning it in'.
Acts like The Stones, McCartney and Rod Stewart - none of them ever need to work ever again. They obviously love playing live, they obviously love playing music.
I wouldn't pay money to see them myself, but I think it's a nonsense for internet pundits to demand they stop doing what they love.
No one demanded they stop doing whatever they are doing. The idea that his career is sustained by mere merit is comical. If Robert Plant was in a dive bar with a guitar I doubt he'd get a second look. Clearly a super unpopular opinion.
 

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The initial complaint also reveals an over-simplification of Led Zeppelin's accomplishments. Sure they could play loud, amped up, balls to the wall rock and roll, but there are plenty of examples in their catalogue of more acoustic based music which strays less far from the blues, folk and country roots that inspired them than some of their more "classic rock" tunes. Zeppelin 3 is a great example of this, where aside from Immigrant Song and maybe Celebration Day, they're playing some pretty rootsy stuff. Heck, Tangerine is practically country with what sounds like a killer pedal steel, and not too far from what Plant/Krauss are currently doing.

I love Bonham and all those classic Zeppelin tunes, I taught myself to drum largely by listening and playing along to them. However, the ones that have stuck with me over the years have been the ones where the band shows a bit of restraint. Never gave Ten Years Gone the time of day as a young teen, but it's outlasted the more bombastic numbers in my listening rotation, as have a bunch of their more acoustic tunes.

If anything, I'd say Plant is coming around full circle, highlighting the early rock and roll that inspired the band so much, and perhaps paying dues and respects when at the height of Zep there was little to no acknowledgement of the origins/source material they were so taken with taking.
“The initial complaint also reveals an over-simplification of Led Zeppelin's accomplishments.”

Again, the song we’re talking about is titled “Rock and Roll”!

Sheesh!
 

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“The initial complaint also reveals an over-simplification of Led Zeppelin's accomplishments.”

Again, the song we’re talking about is titled “Rock and Roll”!

Sheesh!
“It’s only rock & roll but I like it , like it yes I do “.
 

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That was pretty cool. The drummer has a 26" bass (so it seems) so that's respecting Bonham. People who go see R.P. want to hear some Zep and that was it, and hopefully more. Alison Krauss is fantastic and I'd love to catch this show.

When I saw R.P. solo in 1990, same thing. The bass/drums/guitar were not "right" but the songs rocked and obviously R.P. was still fairly "young" so the vocals/appearance were energetic. Same with Page/Plant - I think I saw them 3X in the 90's - each show was awesome, not Zep, but awesome nonetheless......

Have a nice day!
 

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That was pretty cool. The drummer has a 26" bass (so it seems) so that's respecting Bonham. People who go see R.P. want to hear some Zep and that was it, and hopefully more. Alison Krauss is fantastic and I'd love to catch this show.

When I saw R.P. solo in 1990, same thing. The bass/drums/guitar were not "right" but the songs rocked and obviously R.P. was still fairly "young" so the vocals/appearance were energetic. Same with Page/Plant - I think I saw them 3X in the 90's - each show was awesome, not Zep, but awesome nonetheless......

Have a nice day!
……. and he’s a very humble and personable guy too , bumped into him at the Pearl Street Mall in Boulder years ago when he was playing Red Rocks . Took 10 minutes to chat .
 

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It's not the countryness that makes this performance offensively boring to me (remember--we're talking personal taste in this thread--not right/wrong). I could imagine energetic, inspiring renditions in all sorts of genres, bluegrass, polka... hell, gamelan... It's up to the (wait for it) *performers* to sell it, and I'm not buying what Plant and Krauss are selling here.

It might be anathema to mention here, but the musicians up front have more power to make or break a performance's excitement than we have from the back (yeah, yeah, drummer-fronted bands...). If I walked into a bar and that was playing, I'd try real quick to figure out who the drummer is because he's actually doing a good job (the hired guns there are all earning their pay), and then leave.

Did anyone see Bowie's later performances? I thought they were artistic, inspiring... incredible (as Jackie Chiles might say). Look at Johnny Cash's later stuff. Both had art to communicate to people nearly to their dying days. That doesn't mean that people who have run out of juice shouldn't be allowed to derp around on stage, but it also doesn't mean that performances that are worse than their tribute bands are great just because it's some fossils with star power.

I'm not remotely star-worthy, but I'll tell you that my time on stage has an expiration date. When I stop being exciting or have a willowy backbeat or have to say I can't play such-and-such song anymore because it's too fast: retirement. Clean break. (I've also given my wife strict instructions on when to confiscate my driver's license.)
 

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It's not the countryness that makes this performance offensively boring to me (remember--we're talking personal taste in this thread--not right/wrong). I could imagine energetic, inspiring renditions in all sorts of genres, bluegrass, polka... hell, gamelan... It's up to the (wait for it) *performers* to sell it, and I'm not buying what Plant and Krauss are selling here.

It might be anathema to mention here, but the musicians up front have more power to make or break a performance's excitement than we have from the back (yeah, yeah, drummer-fronted bands...). If I walked into a bar and that was playing, I'd try real quick to figure out who the drummer is because he's actually doing a good job (the hired guns there are all earning their pay), and then leave.

Did anyone see Bowie's later performances? I thought they were artistic, inspiring... incredible (as Jackie Chiles might say). Look at Johnny Cash's later stuff. Both had art to communicate to people nearly to their dying days. That doesn't mean that people who have run out of juice shouldn't be allowed to derp around on stage, but it also doesn't mean that performances that are worse than their tribute bands are great just because it's some fossils with star power.

I'm not remotely star-worthy, but I'll tell you that my time on stage has an expiration date. When I stop being exciting or have a willowy backbeat or have to say I can't play such-and-such song anymore because it's too fast: retirement. Clean break. (I've also given my wife strict instructions on when to confiscate my driver's license.)
I don’t think Robert has gone the Phil Collins route just yet .
 

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I’ll take that old timer doing his thing over all the circus clowns that are created and put up on stage that have everyone else writing their songs along with auto tuning everything to death any day . Classic Rock is all but dead and we may never see anyone great come along again and knock our socks off . Enjoy it for what it is and be happy we still have that option . Peace all I’m out .
 


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