Definitely mahagany.rhythmace said:
The shells were 5 ply through the Dayton years but went back to 3 ply for a time in the Fullerton years, unless this is a left over Cleveland era drum, 1966 and prior. At least that was the "Rogers Gospel" prior to Kdsdwc's recent discovery regarding the possibility of all-birch Fullerton shells. Yikes! This thread is getting more interesting by the day...rhythmace said:This one is a 14" X 10" Fullerton and the "Pageant" name was hand written, and I think Holiday was marked out. So I am thinking that this was a shell brought from Ohio to California. A speckled Dayton era shell, but a Fullerton tag, since the shell is three ply. Ace
Gary , so YOU ARE multi talented ! When I read this , your reply was completely unexpected , and I did laugh out loud ! Unicycler ! Now thats balance and I'm throughly impressed , never mind the stick and cowbell . More to the Guru than what meets the eye .GrandpaCleve said:Kevin, First I thank you for the kind words. I also see that re reing as a chunk and not plied. It is 0 degrees outside today and with snow tomorrow I will not take that caliber of a drum outside right now. I will wait a few days for more pics outside on a sunny day when the snow is melting. No problem to be certain about this difference in re ring on deeper dynas. More to follow in a few days on this. I will follow through...we need to know this detail.
And I can ride a unicycle as well. Did so with the H.S. marching band once through the down town streets of Freehold (close to Farmingdale) while playing on the "ands" funking up all those songs that day with cowbell in one hand and stick in the other. I can also play a mean kazoo due to the 1940s kazoo inventions from Mr. Thompson:
Mellotron , " this is fun , I'm glad its being civil too ."mellotron said:Now we are getting somewhere. I saw this picture and thought "This looks just like dad's 8x12 tom on his Fullerton kit. I went and did a search and found your resto thread and it is a Fullerton tag with the same serial number range as dad's tom (2XXXX). I wondered if his was a 3 ply, too. I have pics of the 2 toms. I'll go over this weekend and get a picture of the plies for the bass drum.Here is a mahogany Pageant parade drum that has five ply re-ring and three very thin plies in the shell. Two of the re-ring plies are very thin. Ace
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I'm starting to wonder if that middle ply is poplar on your drum Ace. It is kinda grey-ish just like Dad's drum. The reinforcement hoop inner plies are splintered, just like dad's. I thought there would have to be a softer wood (i.e. poplar) for the inner 2 or 3 plies of the hoops.
I'll upload pics this weekend of all 3 drums. This is fun. I'm glad its being civil too. I wasn't participating when folks were attacking each other.
You are welcome for all the pics. I will still follow through once the weather is right to take out a 6.5 wood Dyna for a pic. Right now the weather is making her camera shy outside.kdsdwc said:Gary , so YOU ARE multi talented ! When I read this , your reply was completely unexpected , and I did laugh out loud ! Unicycler ! Now thats balance and I'm throughly impressed , never mind the stick and cowbell . More to the Guru than what meets the eye .Kevin, First I thank you for the kind words. I also see that re reing as a chunk and not plied. It is 0 degrees outside today and with snow tomorrow I will not take that caliber of a drum outside right now. I will wait a few days for more pics outside on a sunny day when the snow is melting. No problem to be certain about this difference in re ring on deeper dynas. More to follow in a few days on this. I will follow through...we need to know this detail.
And I can ride a unicycle as well. Did so with the H.S. marching band once through the down town streets of Freehold (close to Farmingdale) while playing on the "ands" funking up all those songs that day with cowbell in one hand and stick in the other. I can also play a mean kazoo due to the 1940s kazoo inventions from Mr. Thompson:
That shell does look like , again , a solid re-ring and 3 ply shell . Interesting .
Thanks for taking ALL those pics , Gary .
Kevin, Yup. I was obsessed with The Meters back then..still am. More like the chicken strut:kdsdwc said:So Gary were you doing the "Cissy Strut " while unicycling , and playing cowbell , and just funkin everything up ? LOL !
Weather here is also Frigid . And lots of snow , lots of snow . I'm tired of shoveling .
I had said , to Tommy , that I'd like to see a 1970's 3 ply shell . Guess what I have owned for at least 7 years ? I have a Fullerton taged 22 " bass that I'm in the process of re-wrapping . Thinking about this thread and decided to sand a 6" - 7" section of the bearing edge , just to see the ply make up . Well look what I found , a Fullerton tagged 3 ply shell with 5 ply re-rings ! Tommy , never mind I found one !
I also took pics of a WMP Dyna that I'm making , that I cut from a Concert tom shell . I have the off cut from this shell which will tell me if it had Swivo or Big R mounts . Must find this piece . This is a 5ply shell and 5 ply ring .
Have a look at the pics , I've put pencil marks showing the different plies on the bass .
Brad , LMFAO !! To Funny !bizrad523 said:!!! I feel like we're getting closer to unveiling the mysteries of the universe !!!