This looks like a Keller 3 ply to me. The date range is correct for it to be.I seem to have an anomaly of a drum here. I have a 13" Tower rack tom that has all the signs of the Jasper made shells - the thick and long rerings, the three-ply shell with three-ply rings, BUT it has the sharp bearing edges. With beavertail lugs.
It's important to remember that Rogers was basically a boutique drum company out of a little town in Covington, OH in the early 60's. They had stuff lying around that they would use well after they "technically" moved onto something new. Like the Cleveland era tags on Fullerton era drums, with the model scribbled out and rewritten by hand next to it.
I've concluded they had this extra Jasper shell lying around, so they put the new bearing edges on it, as well as the new beavertail lugs, and sent it off with it's matching drum set - both of which have the three ply Keller shells and sharp edges. The tags date it to 1963/64, and the drums have an engraving in the shells that say "Board of Education - NYC - 1964." Also worth noting that these drums have an outer Mahogany veneer, which makes up the third, outer ply (unless the outer veneer is just a stained maple, I'm not sure.)
So yes, there is a timeline to follow, but remember that sometimes there are some anomalies out there, especially with Rogers!
The revelation that Rogers Keller shells were maple/birch/maple (early 3 ply) and maple/birch/maple/birch/maple (later 5 ply) was from a conversation on Facebook with drum expert Harry Cangany on May 30, 2014. Prior to that date, most Rogers aficionados thought the inner plies were poplar.When researching the Rogers Big R drums around here a couple months back I ran into a number of older posts on this topic. Forum member Ploughman who is one of the Big R experts, started agreeing with the MBMBM notion for the Big R's somewhere in the 2012-2015 period iirc. Prior to that I ran into a few posts by them where they followed the earlier idea of MPM.
Interesting, you're probably right. I've never seen a beavertail drum with rerings as long and flat as the ones inside that tom - they're the same length and thickness as the rerings inside of my Jasper-shelled Rogers. I'll take your word for it!This looks like a Keller 3 ply to me. The date range is correct for it to be.
That forum member was a long time woodworker from Canada, if I remember right. He had compelling arguments based on the grain and even the smell of cutting the woods. That was the first that I had heard about birch inner plies versus poplar. Wasn't he saying that some outer plies were maple and not mahogany also? I felt like he knew what he was talking about and really changed the thinking. Could someone dredge up that thread? Ace
Hi Luke. Years ago I had a red glass 14” beavertail floor Tom that had those wide rings. Don’t know the serial number as it is long gone.Interesting, you're probably right. I've never seen a beavertail drum with rerings as long and flat as the ones inside that tom - they're the same length and thickness as the rerings inside of my Jasper-shelled Rogers. I'll take your word for it!
Thanks Jeff! You make a great point there.Hi Luke. Years ago I had a red glass 14” beavertail floor Tom that had those wide rings. Don’t know the serial number as it is long gone.
I suspect that since yours is a mahogany finish, and that finish was primarily used for schools, they may have just used a mahogany shell they had available. I am sure they didn’t think or care about the make up of the shell. It was just what they had on hand.
BTW, is your 6.5 mahogany Luxor stamped for NYC Bd of Ed?