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My thing is just some of the post come off as "reviews" which are biased as all can be when they are getting all the stuff for free. The whole "you don't appreciate things that you didn't pay for" very well may be true in these instances.

He used to do $30 dollar drum set hacks or whatever. Now it's "I don't like the tension rods on my free $4,000 drum set that I'm not going to play after this 7 minute video".
Give it to someone else who will appreciate the things if you don't like them. Or send it back to the vendor.
Sweetwater gives this guy stuff trying to sell it as the everyman, but most drummers don't have 20+ drum sets they haven't played in 6 months.

He's gotten a ton better as a drummer over the years and props to him there.
Someone a while back posted his reviews are a bit moot because he's running everything through $10k of free sound gear from Sweetwater to do the same tuning across 35 drum sets. I don't think it's that far off...

I don't really know the point of this video. He doesn't really review the drums or change tunings. He chops tubes down because they couldn't be made into bass drums or snare drums easily. Which, they were never meant to.

His buddy plays the drums half the time, and then he spends 15 seconds at the end telling the viewers how to buy them.
I can't be the only one thinking this is weird. How that's worth the tradeoff when music stores are struggling in general is beyond me.

The Thomas Lang video really sells the Roto Toms 10x more in a video where he talks about 7 and 9 stroke rolls.

I think he's gone full time as a YouTuber now, or maybe he's working towards that. I think there's necessarily a difference in the content you would make with a day job vs the content you make when you're trying to make a living at it. I wouldn't have watched the video if it hadn't been posted here, but he seems like he's having a blast. I'm kind of jealous of the guy, able to spend so much time just doing fun drum stuff. I tend to not watch videos like this, not because I don't like them, but there's just so freaking much content out there now and I just can't.
 

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No offense friends, but it’s rich to hear criticism of drum hoarding on DFO. I’ll posit that the number of posters on this site could never practically play all the drums owned by said posters. RVADVR is a brother in spirit. And no shade being thrown anywhere, really.

I’m Steve and I’m a drum hoarder.

(Phew, that felt good to say)
I've critiqued plenty of people here who have 45 snare drums and think the next one is the one that'll fix their marriage/ left hand. I've been around plenty of people with 10+ kits.
If 90% of them spent half the time they did shopping actually playing the drums they'd be monsters.

In defense of the hoarders here:
People can spend their money however the hell they want.
There's a difference between people doing that versus a hoarder who just gets stuff for free. Most artists who have endorsements don't do that to their companies.


Even endorsed drummers don't get kits from 4 different places. Off the last few videos he's getting free drums from:
Random Acrylic Company
Sweetwater
Zzounds
Weiss.

We sit and complain about stick prices going up, and these same stores are sending this guy ample amounts of gear for free.

We shall see how much Steve weiss' Roto Tom sales go up, but I'd wager it won't be much.
 

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While we're on the subject of Youtubers and what they do with their gear and time, I just don't buy that this guy runs a full time recording studio, given how much time he dedicates to shooting YT videos and how frequently he posts. When I've watched videos where he offers recording advice or tips, they're usually not very in depth or educational.

To me, he's another example of people who've taken on Youtubing as a full time job while pretending that the reason you should listen to them is their expertise in the field you showed up for. I could be totally wrong, but then how does he have so much time for shooting YT videos?

RdavidR is a good drummer but not someone I look to for drum study or lessons. I started watching for the quirky drum videos and experiments and that's what his channel is meant for.

 

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You're probably right. Playing was sloppier than Joe and it didn't really go anywhere for a 13 minute slog.
I'll gladly enjoy any other "Roto Tom Kit" video on YouTube and stay in my lane next time.
The problem is you did that thing that people do on the internet where somebody posts something kinda cool and fun, and you decide to put way too much time and effort in to telling us why YOU didn't like it. If you didn't like the video, move on and get on with the rest of your day. You don't need to let everybody know why you can't stand the video or RDAVIDR because nobody asked.
 
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While we're on the subject of Youtubers and what they do with their gear and time, I just don't buy that this guy runs a full time recording studio, given how much time he dedicates to shooting YT videos and how frequently he posts. When I've watched videos where he offers recording advice or tips, they're usually not very in depth or educational.

To me, he's another example of people who've taken on Youtubing as a full time job while pretending that the reason you should listen to them is their expertise in the field you showed up for. I could be totally wrong, but then how does he have so much time for shooting YT videos?

RdavidR is a good drummer but not someone I look to for drum study or lessons. I started watching for the quirky drum videos and experiments and that's what his channel is meant for.


Glenn ran (runs?) a studio in his house that recorded mostly local metal bands. He did so while working a day job at an automotive manufacturing plant in Canada. I think even by his own admission, his "expertise" is getting a finished production out of local metal hacks who can barely play their instruments, which not-so-coincidentally, is his audience. You're right, he's a full time YouTuber now, without much time for actually recording bands anymore. Because that's something that actually pays his bills. His YouTube channel is what allowed him to leave the manufacturing job for good.
 

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The problem is you did that thing that people do on the internet where somebody posts something kinda cool and fun, and you decide to put way too much time and effort in to telling us why YOU didn't like it. If you didn't like the video, move on and get on with the rest of your day. You don't need to let everybody know why you can't stand the video or RDAVIDR because nobody asked.
What was the point of the thread post then if not for a discussion? Can we just post any
Drum-esque YouTube video for praise?
Can I post a Mr. Beast video because he's a real full-time YouTuber?

The standards seem to change here every 5 days and it's very silly.
I don't want to hear anyone bitch about the Appice's and their various endorsements anymore if everyone is cool with this guy just getting truckloads of stuff in the name of Content.

We post threads for discussions. I noted that his page has changed drastically since he's gone full YouTuber and I didn't understand the point of the video.
I forget that everyone is always positive without critique or criticism on every thread here.
 

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Glenn ran (runs?) a studio in his house that recorded mostly local metal bands. He did so while working a day job at an automotive manufacturing plant in Canada. I think even by his own admission, his "expertise" is getting a finished production out of local metal hacks who can barely play their instruments, which not-so-coincidentally, is his audience. You're right, he's a full time YouTuber now, without much time for actually recording bands anymore. Because that's something that actually pays his bills. His YouTube channel is what allowed him to leave the manufacturing job for good.
I don't blame him and I say more power to him for making the YT thing work. But when he posts semi-instructional videos about gain staging or phase cancellation, I notice he might be drifting into the wrong lane a little. Not that he's wrong about it (usually), but that he isn't the best at explaining or teaching. He can be entertaining when he cuts down on the screaming!
 

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What next? People complaining about sponsored bikini reviews on YouTube? I mean, of course I would never watch one but I’ve heard about such things. From other people who are not me.
Wait, there are bikini reviews on YouTube????

I’m spending too much time hoarding drums…
 

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If there was a decent, simple, reliable way to mount roto-toms (that didn't require multiple trips to a hardware store for weird parts) I'd be all over them. Even if it meant that the drum couldn't be "turned" for different pitches...
 

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Well I’ll be …..
Hope this doesn’t break a forum rule



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What was the point of the thread post then if not for a discussion? Can we just post any
Drum-esque YouTube video for praise?
Can I post a Mr. Beast video because he's a real full-time YouTuber?

The standards seem to change here every 5 days and it's very silly.
I don't want to hear anyone bitch about the Appice's and their various endorsements anymore if everyone is cool with this guy just getting truckloads of stuff in the name of Content.

We post threads for discussions. I noted that his page has changed drastically since he's gone full YouTuber and I didn't understand the point of the video.
I forget that everyone is always positive without critique or criticism on every thread here.
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If there was a decent, simple, reliable way to mount roto-toms (that didn't require multiple trips to a hardware store for weird parts) I'd be all over them. Even if it meant that the drum couldn't be "turned" for different pitches...
RIMS and 3/8"-16 bolts from McMaster Carr. Done!

I've even got the part numbers listed here:
 

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His continued emphasis on the wild and wacky of the drum video world doesn't really hold much interest for me. ("World's Largest Moongel?" Right.) If I check out one of his videos, I'll usually get a few minutes into it before the feeling of "this isn't for me" reaches critical mass and I move on.

He has about 3,000 times as many subscribers as my stalled attempt at a youtube channel will ever have, so credit where credit is due, he certainly has found his audience.

Plus, Steve Weiss has gotten a few free mentions in this thread alone, so I suspect as far as they're concerned, "Mission Accomplished."
 
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