I had a similar experience several years ago. I liked it OK until I started using Ks for everything else. With the Ks, the Sabian sounded out of place -- a little too bright and tinny.i used one for a while and it wasn't really for me. it was brittle sounding and had a weird hum ...
I have a 20" manhattan and it is a great cymbal - your description is very accurate. It actually has a very "tony williams K" sound - definitely complex but not really trashy.i have a 22" sabian manhattan jazz..
its a unique sound. dark, but not trashy or anything like that. dark, but clean, i suppose. warm wash, nice clicky stick sound, lovely bell.
it's very light too, works just fine on the left as a big crash.. sounds awesome with a chain.. never washes out.
if i were to complain about it, all i'd say is that it's not easy to pair with (my) other cymbals... tends to sound out of place with other jazz rides, because it has none of that dragonsbreath washy sound.
for quiet gigs? i'd recommend it. its certainly not too loud
"WAY" overpriced? No, but it's a little more than I'd like to pay. Looking around at other similar used HH models most seem readily available in the $200 range. I would think the Jazz Ride should be about the same. I paid $250 for the first one I had, but it was basically brand new.In your opinion, is $300 WAY overpriced?
If you ever decide you want to part with it, please let me know! I don't know exactly what my old one weighed, but listening to sound files of other HH Jazz Rides online I'm guessing it was right around the 2000 gram area give or take.I have a 20 HH JAzz Ride. 1980 grams. Awesome bell, crash and still some stick definition. Mine is not trashy at all. Really like it, but not a cutting cymbal of course.