Sabian SBR hi hat. 2 top, no bottom ?

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Hello, I juste received my new pearl export with a pack of sabian sbr cymbals.

I was a little suprise because hi hat must have a bottom cymbal and a top cymbal. But here both cymbals are identical... Is it normal ?

thanks for your help
 

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Are they both stamped “top” or are you just looking at their weights? Because it is perfectly fine to have top and bottom hihats be the same weight.
 

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There is absolutely nothing stamped. Except "sabian sbr hat". Weight is identical, sound is identical.
 

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Hello,

I've just weighed the cymbals and they both weigh around 925 gr.

Same weight, same diameter, same sound.

Is it a problem to have identical cymbals for a Hi Hat ?
 

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No problem at all! It's only a question of whether you like the sound. I myself play hihats that have the same weight top and bottom, a mixed set from different brands. Mine have different pitches, with a nice interval of a fourth between them; to me that's more musical sounding than if they were the same pitch. But there is nothing inherently bad, wrong, or a mistake about having identical top and bottom.

I guess if you wanted to send the cymbal set back for an exchange, you could do that and see if they send you a hihat set that has more difference between top and bottom. Or you can look at Ebay or your local used-gear markets for an orphan single hihat in a heavier weight.
 

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Before New Beats, matched-weight hi hats were common. If you're looking for a washy, sloshy hat sound, they're better than New Beats. If you want something crisper with more chick and projection, then you need a heavier bottom.

I have a set of early 60's A Zildjians where both cymbals weigh between 825 and 875. They sound great. When I was putting together a pair of hats for my handmade Turkish set, the only way I could get the sound I wanted was by combining two tops (a Mehmet Legend and a Bosphorus Traditional) and putting the bottoms in my closet.
 

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If you're looking for a washy, sloshy hat sound, they're better than New Beats. If you want something crisper with more chick and projection, then you need a heavier bottom.
Yep. When I play in a situation that needs more volume and cut from the chick sound, I swap out my sloshy thin bottom hat with a heavy 2002 sound Edge. But even there, I picked one that has a nice pitch interval with the top hat.
 

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you know, they could both be bottoms, just sayin'
SBR = Brass cymbal, probably pretty common for them both to be nearly the same size and weight
This is correct. When I was in music retail, I unboxed many of these for beginner kits. The hats are roughly the same top/bottom.
 

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