I don't think the Artist snares had solid shells, but they were still a nice drum. Mine had 8 lugs. I ruined it, playing in a LOUD cover band, and delaminated the shell, which made it toast, unfortunately.I love it when this comes up it actualy gives me something to talk about on here! Anyway Who says there's no vintage radio kings with 10 lugs?!..........though would this have been called a radio king or an artist model?
They had a solid shell in 63 and 63 mines a 63 I'm sure. I'm interested to know exactly how your drum got ruined just by playing loud?I don't think the Artist snares had solid shells, but they were still a nice drum. Mine had 8 lugs. I ruined it, playing in a LOUD cover band, and delaminated the shell, which made it toast, unfortunately.
Didn't know that about solid shell Artists.They had a solid shell in 63 and 63 mines a 63 I'm sure. I'm interested to know exactly how your drum got ruined just by playing loud?
Yeah, I know the feeling of not being miked up trying to compete on volume with those damn guitar players! ive had loads of that, it's not so good for your technique either, I still find it difficult to play quiet. Ouch! What a nightmare for that artist snare, and the sound king I would want to kill him!Didn't know that about solid shell Artists.
I was recruited to play in a pop/rock band after just doing the jazz thing in high school. The drums never had mics, so I had to slam above the very loud amps. All I could do to survive was to get some very thick 3S model marching sticks, and slam the snare as hard as I could. After one summer of gigs, my big sticks looked like corn cobs, and I noticed a buzz coming from inside the snare shell. I took the batter head off and noticed that the shell had delaminated. The innermost play was blistered from the rest of the plies. I painted the inside of the shell with an oil-based paint my dad had, thinking that would save it, but too late. It was finished. I decided to buy a ten-lug Krupa Chrome Sound King, and to this day, was the best snare I ever owned, until a janitor knocked it over in the band room at college, and caved in the shell, right at the snare butt. Now you know 'the rest of the story!'
With fewer lugs, there is more pressure (at a given tuning) on the single t-rods; not sure if this leads to faster de-tuning or the opposite. I don't think the way the lug inserts are mounted matters here, the kind of inserts does though (for example some older Sonor inserts).I feel that 8-luggers are easier to tune, while 10-luggers stay in tune better. Maybe it's because both my 8-luggers have vintage spring-loaded lugs and my 10-lugger has modern nylon-threaded lugs. It's not that easy to control variables in music
This is a question not worth obsessing over IMHO; there's a video on the question at the YouTube Sounds Like A Drum channel that examines the issue pretty well. More lugs basically = more even tension on the rims and reduced shell resonance. For example, an Acrolite is generally less dry sounding than a Supraphonic.I was reading that the classic sound of the Radio King snare has eight lugs and not ten lugs. Maybe the extra two lugs "restrict" the resonance? It seems that eight-luggers are worth more than the "Super" Radio Kings, these days. I'd like to hear your thoughts on the number of lugs with ply shells, other wood material, and metals. How about twelve-lug snares? I know some of you have it down to a science.