Size Conundrum - 14" & 16" floors or 16" & 18" floors?

Andrew Linnemann

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First time throwing a topic on the DF - This is self-centered, as I am going to be buying a new Legacy Classic set with 12" & 13" toms and 22" bass, just debating on whether to go with 14" and 16" floor toms or sticking with my regular 16" and 18" configuration. I have had a 15" and 16" combo in the past (DW) and struggled with getting a satisfactory tone out of the 15", but I do like the 'compact-ness' and smaller configurations that a 14/16 combo presents.
Can anyone out there who pays a mix of rock/funk/jazz provide a POV on going either way with this?
For clarity, the current build plan is:
8x12
9x13
16x16
16x18
or 14x14

Thanks Forum...
Current set-up to be replaced is below (1970)
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Congratulations on having such a wonderful dilemma! I wouldn’t worry about posting a self-centered topic. All of mine have been—shamelessly so-- and I haven’t been booted form the forum yet.
I’ve played the genres you mention, with the absence of jazz, and my dos centavos would be to get the 14/16 combination.
There’s just a clarity there that works with the depth of tone on a 14 that for me doesn’t get lost in the lower end of the mix that I like, but if you want to get into the low end of tribal, I think the 16 works.
For me, an 18” floor tom is a future kick drum conversion project or an excuse to get a bigger vehicle.
 

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Current set-up to be replaced is below (1970)
ermm better have a good Reason (to be getting rid of) those look like Gems;
regarding floor toms
1) how many times do you take 2
2) with a 22/12/13/ I'd go 16/18
If it was 20" bass - and concerned with space
may go with the 14"
Think the 22 goes with the 16/18
and evidently you always feel you'll have the space;
may as well use it.
You're not seeming to
scrimp on space
anywhere else..
for the times you can take a second floor tom
(18)
 

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^^^TRuth1 How much do I need to be heard in the living room? Can You hear me out there in the
dining room? Back porch? ya with me?? Larry!

"how dare you" I've turned my GameBase room into " Muscle Shoals" and I Zoom to an audience of 5!!!
 

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My current kit is a Legacy Maple: 14x22/14x22/8x12/9x13/14x14/14x16. The pitch spread between the 13 and 14 toms is ideal. However, I've found that the 14x16 is a bit more finicky to get a good 'round' sound out of than a conventional 16x16. If I were to do it over again I'd get a 16x16 like you're contemplating. Also, if I had it to do all over again I'd go with a Legacy Mahogany kit for its stronger low end, instead of a Legacy Maple. (The Legacy Mahogany series wasn't available in 2013 when I got my Legacy Maple kit.)

I previously had a Gretsch USA Custom kit in these same sizes, but with 16x16 and 16x18 floor toms instead of the 14x14 and 14x16. I thought the 18 was too large — it needed to be tuned real low, which forced all the other toms to be tuned a bit too low as well. That's why I went with 14 and 16 sizes in my Ludwigs, and it works much better. OTOH, in my Ludwig Classic 'rock' kit (26/26/13/14/16/18) the 18" floor tom is ideal, but that kit has an overall much lower pitch than the kit you're talking about.
 
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@bassanddrum84 Tell me what you like about the 14" depth over the 16" depth?
I find it easier to place closer to my kick pedal when you turn a leg in. Specially if you have cymbal stand legs right there it fits over them easier. Sound wise seems more attack to me and less boomy. But in a live application I prolly wouldn’t be able to tell if a drummer is using one or not. Placement for me is the big plus.
 

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So Steve Jordan played 14x14 and 16x18 floor toms with John Mayer I believe. Those could be cool sizes. Also, jazz guys like Tony Williams and Elvin Jones played 14x14, 16x16, and 18x18. I wanted to get an 18x18 after hearing that. Hope this helps.
 

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As long as it's your money we're talking about, get 14/16/18, then convert the 18 to a bass drum and pick up a 10" tom to complete a 10/12/14/18 set. :toothy7:

But seriously - IDK. I play much smaller drums than what you're considering.
 

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^^^TRuth1 How much do I need to be heard in the living room? Can You hear me out there in the
dining room? Back porch? ya with me?? Larry!

"how dare you" I've turned my GameBase room into " Muscle Shoals" and I Zoom to an audience of 5!!!
Haha, that too! I was actually going the other way with it. How gigantic can I make the drums now that there's nowhere to schlep them to? 24" floor toms? Should I make a set of 14x30 octobans now, and play on a 7' throne with 4' heel Kiss boots to reach the pedals??
 
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