I agree with this opinion. Ludwig's batter heads are crap, but the snare sides are fantastic. They are super thin and sensitive. The ring you hear, IMO, is due to a combination of the tuning and the Ludwig batter head. The first thing I do with a new Ludwig metal snare is put an Ambassador coated on it. You're always going to have some ring, but you can clearly hear the resonant wave in your recording which is causing sympathetic snare buzz. I think a little more distance between the head's pitch as well as adjusting the snare wires would help, and if this is a vintage ludwig, consider replacing the snare wires. It sounds a bit like some are looser than others and putting uneven tension. That happens if they become stretched out or get snagged during transport. Of course, save the originals...Just my experience and opinion. Keep the snare side...for me there's nothing better on a Ludwig Snare than the Ludwig snare side....for the batter though I go with Aquarian and for wires Canopus, they in my opinion make all the difference
Now that does point to the snares. I don't know of any interaction between wire tension and batter head overtones.I still have some troubles when I try to get the wires as tight as I'd like them. Then the strange overtones start again.
What about springs inside the lugs?Hey Guys,
I've got a couple of snares: Ludwig LM400, Ludwig Classic Maple 6.5x14, Pearl 3x13 brass and a Pearl Sensitone Phosphor Bronze 6.5x14. I am having some issues with the Ludwig snares that maybe you might have an answer for. I kind of set the LM400 off to the side when I got the Pearl Phosphor Bronze but I just got the Classic Maple. The problem? From both Ludwig snares I get a very strange overtone that happens after the snares stop. It's not simply head ring. It's a secondary overtone that begins after the wires stop and it lasts a couple seconds. It's very metallic in sound. Almost like I've choked the snares but they try to vibrate anyway. I'm trying not to be vague but its hard to describe. I'm sure it's due to my lack of understanding. If I us moon gel or any muffling, it will go away. So it's really just when it's wide open. I won't be playing it completely open but I'd like to understand what I am hearing.
snare overtone problem
Here are some specifics:
Ludwig Classic Maple snare 6.5x14
stock heads - Weather Master Heavy Coated on batter and Weather Master clear snare side. I assume its a 3mil snare side
Tuning: I like a medium high tuning: Bottom=A (pretty tight), Top=E (I usually think of a D as a medium tuning and an F# as high)
Stock snare wires
So, The Pearl snares do not have this odd overtone when tuned identical and played wide open. Do you think it has something to do with the snare bed depth differences?
I can post an audio clip if really needed but I figure this has to be so common that many of you know exactly what it is right now.
Thanks for the help.
You might be right, but this would be way too much tension. Wires on the snare side head should be anywhere between "kissing" and "embracing" each other, not the wires "strangling" the head.Another thing that can happen is the tension of the strainer pulling the wires can slightly deflect the shape of the shell