Snare Stand/Tom Tuning Issue

[Tylerfrey]

Hey All,

I picked up at C&C player date kit recently and have been using a snare stand to mount the 13" tom but I keep running into crazy tuning issues when its on the stand. Ive tried tuning once its mounted as well and every time the stand shifts a little it seems to go out again. Based on a few other threads on this topic I have it one the edge of the hoop (added a photo) and that helps from totally choking it out.

I know they have products that suspend the tom and are supposed to help but I wanted to see if anyone had any good suggestions to try before going that route.

 

[bpaluzzi]

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[Tylerfrey]

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Thats awesome i'll check those out for sure! Everything else I was seeing was a lot more expensive

 

[CherryClassic]

Try opening the stand and let the rim set ON the rubber inside the L shape. Just don't close it too tight on the out side of the rim. My stand has a ridge in the center which raises the drum enough alowing it to sing.

sherm

 

[MaskingApathy]

Thats awesome i'll check those out for sure! Everything else I was seeing was a lot more expensive

I have those also, they're great.

 

[varatrodder]

Snare stands will suck the tone out of a tom. I used a regular DW flat based stand for 10+ years, but a couple of years ago I switched to the DW Ultralight stand and it make a HUGE difference in tone and sustain. It allows the drum to float on the stand and really increased sustain and the overall quality of tone.

I moved the regular DW stand to my office kit, and added those Booty Shaker snare stand things. They worked really well. Not as good as switching to the Ultralight stand, but definitely a noticeable improvement. I highly recommend them.

 

[p83]

i make my own floor tom cradles and rack tom stands. the old ludwig stands don't pinch the drum and they really sing.

 

[ARGuy]

I've used the GPI Flex Frame.

 

[rculberson]

I've used the GPI Flex Frame.

My experience has been that FlexFrame opens a snare stand-mounted tom up better than any other solution.

 

[Ray Dee Oh King]

Dont tighten it down. Just tighten so the stand barely touches the hoop. I use the DW snare/tom stand, which has isolation pads similar to booty shakers and I still dont tighten my stand much. It just rests there.

 

[JimmySticks]

Could it be a problem with the tom itself?

Maybe the reso head isn't tuned properly and that is what's choking the drum.

 

[bigbeat]

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+1

 

[CherryClassic]

Question: How many of you mount your toms on a snare stand as pictured buy the OP?

Am I the only one that noticed that? As pictured the stand has to be tight to hold it in place and that's too tight. He's choking the rim in this case. The drum has to set inside of the basket and only tightened enough to keep it from falling if it even needs to be tightened. If I'm wrong teach me something new. I never tighten the basket on my snare but then it sets more level so it's not needed.

sherm

 

[Tylerfrey]

Wow! Appreciate all the dialog on this thread thanks everyone.

Ive had it just sitting in the basket before as well and had the same problem. I ordered some of the booty shakers so when they get here tomorrow ill try a few things with them.

 

[DanRH]

I've used the GPI Flex Frame.

Ditto, ditto, ditto. Quite pricier compared to Booty Shakers but less hassle.

 

[DanRH]

Could it be a problem with the tom itself?

Maybe the reso head isn't tuned properly and that is what's choking the drum.

I’ve had issues with roundness and edges as well.

 

[bpaluzzi]

Question: How many of you mount your toms on a snare stand as pictured buy the OP?

Am I the only one that noticed that? As pictured the stand has to be tight to hold it in place and that's too tight. He's choking the rim in this case. The drum has to set inside of the basket and only tightened enough to keep it from falling if it even needs to be tightened. If I'm wrong teach me something new. I never tighten the basket on my snare but then it sets more level so it's not needed.

sherm

On my kits/stands without booty shakers, I have mine positioned exactly like that (on the edge of the rim, slight angle), and it's not tight. I can rotate the tom in the stand if I want to.

 

[Cauldronics]

My experience has been that FlexFrame opens a snare stand-mounted tom up better than any other solution.

Same. They're under every tom in my kit. I wish they made them in 15 and 16", but when I emailed Gauger, they said they had no plans to make those sizes.

They can even make a snare drum sound a lot more lively and full.

 

[tomo221]

+1 for the Flex Frame.

 

[NobleCooleyNut]

I used the Flexframe in the past and it worked very well . I currently use the Tama a classic series from stand and I did the Tom doesn’t choke like with a regular snare stand .