Looks like Wald listed the parts you need.apologies if my searching skills have underserved me, but I didn't seem to find a clear answer - and I somehow can't even register at the sonormuseum forum?
anyway, i've seen folks on here speak to Phonic being their top of the line. is that just for certain time periods - if so, which one(s)?
I've noticed some price lists from the 80s showing both the Lite series and Signature series costing significantly more.
I just got some lite shells and am mildly horrified by hardware prices to build them out. is there a budget kit i should look for to strip parts that could/would be cost effective? i'm in no hurry, so happy to be patient for something to come around.
I did see these posted on Reverb. I had considered making an offer for a while until I noticed there weren't any mounting screws and a friend pointed out that standard tension rods wouldn't work with these. These shells I got are pretty beat, so I don't think adding some holes would be the end of the world. I just want the kick to be functional. stock would be lovely, but it would take a great deal more than hardware to get there.Get in touch if you need a bunch of lugs!
Isn't that also about the same time they quit chroming their hardware?Answering a few more questions with help from the SM archives
Why did Sonor stop making seamless steel shells?
“Sonor at one time made their own seamless metal snare shells and hoops in-house and did their own chrome plating as well.
Sonor had been buying the ferromanganese steel blanks from a metal company that also suplied the same alloy to the auto industry. In the mid 1990's the auto maker who bought this alloy stopped using it.
Sonor could still get the alloy but had a minimum buy of something like 50 tons. Needless to say they hadn't used anywhere near that much ferro steel over the previous 25 YEARS so that pretty much ended that.
In the mid 1990's the German version of the EPA mandated that water discharged from the manufacturing facility had to exceed the purity standards for bottled water! Chrome plating is an inherently nasty and dirty business with all kinds of corrosive chemicals and heavy metals involved. Sonor had already spend a LOT of money on new filtration equipment to meet the previous standards. It simply became too expensive to do any plating in-house and also meet the federal guidelines.
That is what killed the seamless ferro manganese snares. The machine sat idle for the next few years and was eventually sent to China about the year 2000. They were using it to make trumpet and trombone bells with varying degrees of success.
It is rumoured that the machine may have ended up in the Netherlands as there is a supplier there who is making seamless metal goods to spec. Their cost per unit for drum shells is exceedingly high.
Why did Sonor stop making cast bronze shells like the HLD590?
“Sonor started out with one supplier in the late 1980s when the HLD 590 and 593 were first introduced. Apparently the failure rate was very high in the casting process. So many shells were sent back with cosmetic imperfections that the supplier simply gave up. Sonor was forced to find another supplier. That may account for the slight color variation seen by some between the early and later models.”
Absolutely and that’s a major point. In the early 90s all the metal and chrome works were outsourced. This is when Sonor became less of the we do it all in house to more like other drum manufacturers and industries. A sign of the times.Isn't that also about the same time they quit chroming their hardware?