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[musiqman]

That was an interesting day at Purple Chord (really check that store out Beppe is an A+ store owner with tremendous knowledge and passion).

I came for this 455 Ferro:

But took home this 444 COB with non original strainer :

Cool muffler system too:

 

[Tarkus]

Every day a new drum? Didn't you just present a Gong drum?

Anyway, congratulations to the D-444. Nice find. In theory, it might sound similar to the 455 that you wanted initially.

The muffler system looks incomplete, At the empty hole close the the head should be a rod installed with two mufflers attached ... but who needs mufflers.

Did you read Franks comments on D-444 COB?

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Markus

 

[musiqman]

Haha this wasn't planned so quick tbh. Additional rack parts came in today, and a price request for a 8x7 and second matching) 20'' gong has been made last week too.

You mean it could be Ferro?

Yes. I've got this from a specialized in vintage drums (and Sonor) and this is a COB indeed.

It is a hefty warm stunner now after some playtime in the studio.

And indeed who needs two mutes anyway this one is already close to being too much.

 

[Frank Godiva]

Very nice. How can you tell the 444 is COB?

 

[musiqman]

Very nice. How can you tell the 444 is COB?

The seller is experienced enough in Sonor and (vintage) drums in general.

I read that ferro can corrode/pit and COB doesn’t, the shell is basically flawless (compared to the die cast hoops).

Also it has much more warmth than steel/Ferro and is quite heavier than its Ferro brothers and sisters.

 

[Frank Godiva]

Good to have expertise and passion. I myself em not an expert, but just another drummer on the board.

As far as I know, the first drum is not a 455, but rather a D453. The D453 is described as being metal in the Ranger and Medley leaflets featuring imperial lugs. These were only offered in the EU to compete with Ludwig which is why the tom lugs look like Ludwig as well.

This is not the first time Sonor used imperial lugs. The 1935 Sonor Extra Concert snare featured imperial lugs. Coincidentally, the Ludwig Imperial lug was first introduced in 1935 with our 25 anniversary snares.

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[musiqman]

I couldn’t even find a 455 my bad.

How can you tell the difference from 453 and 455? To me they look the same.

Im actually glad he didn’t have it anymore because it would have been better just getting a Supra because it has that vibe.

 

[Frank Godiva]

I am stretching the limits of my EU Sonor knowledge. That’s a great question for these great folks. I would also pose the D444 is COB question.

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[musiqman]

I cant seem to register due to a captcha error.

Tha last post was somewhwre around the end of last year so its not that active anymore?

Oh well. Doesn’t matter.

I know what I have and it kills in the studio.

What else can anyone wish for.

 

[Tarkus]

Good to have expertise and passion. I myself em not an expert, but just another drummer on the board.

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Being quite new here, this is the largest understatement I saw up to now.

Really appreciate your comments. And to give something back, here a little documentary about Sonor metal shell production (maybe known already):

 

[stevesmithfan]

Chrome Ferro is the best snare drum ever made IMO.

 

[musiqman]

Chrome Ferro is the best snare drum ever made IMO.

I have to admit I do prefer a Ludwig alu more but regardless ferro or brass, Sonor has always been top of their game.

 

[Germandrummer]

I have to admit I do prefer a Ludwig alu more but regardless ferro or brass, Sonor has always been top of their game.

Comparing a Supra and a D454 is a good example for a great and unique sound having nothing to do with build quality. Just my two cents.

 

[musiqman]

Comparing a Supra and a D454 is a good example for a great and unique sound having nothing to do with build quality. Just my two cents.

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[Germandrummer]

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The Ludwig Supraphonic might lose against the Sonor Ferros concerning build quality, but to me they are much more versatile drums.

 

[Frank Godiva]

Being quite new here, this is the largest understatement I saw up to now.

Really appreciate your comments. And to give something back, here a little documentary about Sonor metal shell production (maybe known already):

Thanks so much for that clip and in English. Gonna use it in a response on another thread later this weekend to answer some more questions. Have seen the film. From the 94 Designer promo but clips like this are older.

perfect timing and timing is everything to us timekeepers

 

[musiqman]

The Ludwig Supraphonic might lose against the Sonor Ferros concerning build quality, but to me they are much more versatile drums.

Ahh.

I haven’t had experiences with both together so I can’t vouch for that

 

[musiqman]

She now resides in the good company of my DW/Zildjian kit.

It is a hefty beasty.

The die cast hoops really help in getting that fine crack and a thick cross stick sound under de mic.

 

[Frank Godiva]

They do look like die cast, but they were stamped in a machine similar to these in Ohio.

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