- Jan 20, 2010
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Just for the sake of some fun drum discussion, these 3 kits have been on my radar. Experiences? Pros/Cons?
How much would those upgrades cost?Sakae Trilogy drums over the Brooklyns for me as well. wide tuning range. As stated, they love mid tension, but can crank to jazz tuning just fine for me.
The mandatory mods for me that take these amazing drums to another level is the the aluminum RIMS for the rack (because these drums are so dang light), and the Gauger floor tom spring feet. I have old threads about it.
About $80 for the RIMS mount and $40 for a set of floor tom legs.How much would those upgrades cost?
Agreed. I didn't stick with the traditional RIMS mount, but I did swap in Pearl Air Cushion feet on the floor tom legs. Made a lot of difference. They have some real rumble.About $80 for the RIMS mount and $40 for a set of floor tom legs.
Don’t get me wrong, the drums are incredible without, but the difference with the upgrades is very noticeable. Two guys on the forum here gave it a try on my post recommendation. Both wrote back being beyond happy trying it.
Yep, the Sakae brand is still active. Korg took over. Not sure where they are taking the brand/production. Will probably not be the same as old Sakae though. Maybe Yamaha, for this year’s Namm, will take a step back to their history with Sakae?Are Sakae still in production? Haven't seen them around anymore, seems they went out of business and then came back this year.
Personally I'd go with Ludwig Legacies. Out of your choices, I'd lean towards Gretsch, but that's the only one I've ever played (my vintage 4157 really sings) so might not be very convincing.
It's good to read that somebody else scoops 750. I've been doing that for years. When you do that you're left with less ring from the toms...a nice attack and warm low end.I chose Sakae while considering Gretsch Broadkasters, Sonor Vintage, and INDe. I've had the kit for more than two years, and I'm still floored by them every time I play.
Couple of notes though:
Here's a video I filmed of me tracking for a local band's record. There's a bit of compression on the master channel, snare drum, and bass drum; and there's a 2 or 3 db scoop around 750hz, but otherwise, this is pretty close to what I get in the room.
- They have very, very different response patterns than the Brooklyn or Sonor Vintage drums. Those other drums have much more prominent attack responses with more high-end sweetness. You won't get as much of that from the Trilogies, although different hoops might change that a bit.
- They seem happiest tuned to a medium tension or lower. They can go high, but they don't sing as well as other drums.
- The 1.6mm hoops let them really open up in the mid-range. That can include some weird overtones even if the drums are tuned well. It took me a while to cave, but I finally put a small piece of gel muffling on each drum and it made a world of difference. In my experience, they produce a ton of sound in that medium/medium-low range and things can get a little muddy if you don't try to clean it up a bit.
- They have a really soft feel
- I love how they sound under microphones
I really loved what I heard from the Broadkasters and Sonor Vintage kits I played around that time, and I've since really come to love the Brooklyns. I think you'll be extremely happy with any.