Tama Star - Walnut or Maple?

[fusseltier]

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Which great drum factories switched from Taiwan to China ?? ..... Pearl Pro level is still Taiwan. ...... Tama and Yamaha primary pro level are in China.. but moved from Japan..... and the china stuff is as good as anything out there IMO.. Go examine a Yamaha Absolute Hybrid shell up close.. but don't compare it to anything American so you don't embarrass us Americans.. LOL

I'd never buy a Yamaha set since they aren't making them in Indonesia anymore. And I don't care what kind of quality you might get lucky with on a Chinese set, if I want a set I want it made where the company is from, not slave labor or funding the military expansion in my region.
Yamaha only makes traditional Japanese instruments in Japan and pearl higher end models are still made in Taiwan.
I'd only want a German Sonor, Taiwan Pearl, US Ludwig or Gretsch, Japanese Tama, British Premier. Etc. Keep the company and employees in business in their home country. I always try to not buy anything from China, but sometimes there is no choice and you have to.
I've never had Nike shoes and I was given an iPhone and never used it.

 

[Mapex Always]

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I'd never buy a Yamaha set since they aren't making them in Indonesia anymore. And I don't care what kind of quality you might get lucky with on a Chinese set, if I want a set I want it made where the company is from, not slave labor or funding the military expansion in my region.
Yamaha only makes traditional Japanese instruments in Japan and pearl higher end models are still made in Taiwan.
I'd only want a German Sonor, Taiwan Pearl, US Ludwig or Gretsch, Japanese Tama, British Premier. Etc. Keep the company and employees in business in their home country. I always try to not buy anything from China, but sometimes there is no choice and you have to.
I've never had Nike shoes and I was given an iPhone and never used it.

Respect on the “Nike shoes” comment …. As for build quality , @Steech , @Rhyma Hop , hope your both well , I’ve had countless American built kits with never a problem , and always special ….. many excellent China kits as well , always fantastically built …. The best set I ever played was built in Taiwan.

Point is , there is great exceptional build quality from everywhere …. Drums today , especially , are built top notch.

Right now with the 4 sets being built that I’m waiting on … America , Germany , Taiwan , Japan … I anticipate the “build quality” to be exceptional on each , and if I had another China kit on order , I would feel equally the same ,, past experiences have conditioned me for that.

 

[TheDrummerFromAmsterdam]

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I'd never buy a Yamaha set since they aren't making them in Indonesia anymore. And I don't care what kind of quality you might get lucky with on a Chinese set, if I want a set I want it made where the company is from, not slave labor or funding the military expansion in my region.
Yamaha only makes traditional Japanese instruments in Japan and pearl higher end models are still made in Taiwan.
I'd only want a German Sonor, Taiwan Pearl, US Ludwig or Gretsch, Japanese Tama, British Premier. Etc. Keep the company and employees in business in their home country. I always try to not buy anything from China, but sometimes there is no choice and you have to.
I've never had Nike shoes and I was given an iPhone and never used it.

Each to each own, but Yamaha has had factories outside Japan for decades.

Including Taiwan, (Great Republic of China), the UK, and Indonesia (hardware and the earlier Stage Custom series).

The upgrade and expansion of their China located operations didn’t wasn’t new in itself.

All their factories, training of employees, work conditions, build quality, and traditional way of building are to Yamaha Japan’s standards and has always been, regardless demographic.

 

[fusseltier]

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Each to each own, but Yamaha has had factories outside Japan for decades.

Including Taiwan, (Great Republic of China), the UK, and Indonesia (hardware and the earlier Stage Custom series).

The upgrade and expansion of their China located operations didn’t wasn’t new in itself.

All their factories, training of employees, work conditions, build quality, and traditional way of building are to Yamaha Japan’s standards and has always been, regardless demographic.

That depends on the day, like the days the factory inspection representatives are actually at the factory. When the inspector is away the mice will have lower motivation or incentive.

 

[NobleCooleyNut]

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I'd never buy a Yamaha set since they aren't making them in Indonesia anymore. And I don't care what kind of quality you might get lucky with on a Chinese set, if I want a set I want it made where the company is from, not slave labor or funding the military expansion in my region.
Yamaha only makes traditional Japanese instruments in Japan and pearl higher end models are still made in Taiwan.
I'd only want a German Sonor, Taiwan Pearl, US Ludwig or Gretsch, Japanese Tama, British Premier. Etc. Keep the company and employees in business in their home country. I always try to not buy anything from China, but sometimes there is no choice and you have to.
I've never had Nike shoes and I was given an iPhone and never used it.

Just an FYI - the Yamaha PHX kits are still made in Hamamatsu Japan .

 

[TheDrummerFromAmsterdam]

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That depends on the day, like the days the factory inspection representatives are actually at the factory. When the inspector is away the mice will have lower motivation or incentive.

I don’t know where you got that wrong information from, but that is clearly not the case (also it is a multi bilion company, not a school with teenage kids).

If it was like that, you would here about quality issues weekly from stores these kast decades or even the last 11 years the new dedicated factory has since been crafting instruments.

 

[Steech]

I don’t know where you got that wrong information from, but that is clearly not the case (also it is a multi bilion company, not a school with teenage kids).

If it was like that, you would here about quality issues weekly from stores these kast decades or even the last 11 years the new dedicated factory has since been crafting instruments.

Agreed. I can’t imagine Yamaha allowing those kinds of slip-ups to happen in any of their factories, including the ones in China. And if it were to happen once it would be corrected immediately.

 

[Toast Tee]

Bubinga.

The perfect blend between the maple and walnut.

Played a set they had in our local drum shop and was amazes, as I initially leaned to the walnut for its lows.

Agreed, although it wasn't an option, they sound rediculous, especially the snare

 

[Rhyma Hop]

Respect on the “Nike shoes” comment …. As for build quality , @Steech , @Rhyma Hop , hope your both well , I’ve had countless American built kits with never a problem , and always special ….. many excellent China kits as well , always fantastically built …. The best set I ever played was built in Taiwan.

Point is , there is great exceptional build quality from everywhere …. Drums today , especially , are built top notch.

I hear you.. I've had alot of american kits as well , and I never had anything completely horrible..... but my other kits were just a little better .. a little cleaner build.. in the extreme details. ..... I see the same thing in vehicles.. in the attention to detail.

 

[Skyrm]

Agreed, although it wasn't an option, they sound rediculous, especially the snare

Found this from DCP:

Man, do they sound great!

Tama only released 3 sets in the US, and DCP got all 3! Two left. $7,999.99

 

[TheDrummerFromAmsterdam]

Agreed, although it wasn't an option, they sound rediculous, especially the snare

This was the Star Bubinga finished in Indian Laurel, I was contemplating a few weeks ago.

It was one sale for 3800,- and sounded delicious.

 

[NobleCooleyNut]

This was the Star Bubinga finished in Indian Laurel, I was contemplating a few weeks ago.

It was one sale for 3800,- and sounded delicious.

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Who had this for sale for $3800 ?

 

[TheDrummerFromAmsterdam]

Who had this for sale for $3800 ?

Our local shop in Amsterdam. So that was € (just below 4300usd).

 

[Toast Tee]

This was the Star Bubinga finished in Indian Laurel, I was contemplating a few weeks ago.

It was one sale for 3800,- and sounded delicious.

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You're right about that! I would have grabbed it for sure

 

[fusseltier]

I don’t know where you got that wrong information from, but that is clearly not the case (also it is a multi bilion company, not a school with teenage kids).

If it was like that, you would here about quality issues weekly from stores these kast decades or even the last 11 years the new dedicated factory has since been crafting instruments.

That's the way its always been in Chinese factories unless they have a company rep there to monitor production.
It used to be the days the reps are there the quality was better than the days the reps weren't there.
Unless things have changed for the better and they are adhering to the quality standards all the time, but they didn't in the past.

 

[fusseltier]

Just an FYI - the Yamaha PHX kits are still made in Hamamatsu Japan .

Last i knew, only traditional Japanese instruments were made in Japan by Yamaha.

 

[TheDrummerFromAmsterdam]

Last i knew, only traditional Japanese instruments were made in Japan by Yamaha.

Both the PHX and some Concert/orchestral Percussion instruments are still being made in Japan.

 

[TheDrummerFromAmsterdam]

That's the way its always been in Chinese factories unless they have a company rep there to monitor production.
It used to be the days the reps are there the quality was better than the days the reps weren't there.
Unless things have changed for the better and they are adhering to the quality standards all the time, but they didn't in the past.

I can ensure you at least Yamaha does (and has done so in the past).

I can't speak for other companies.

 

[HalldorL]

Last i knew, only traditional Japanese instruments were made in Japan by Yamaha.

The PHX is indeed made in Japan.

 

[Quai34]

Beautiful

Agree, that will be mine, I don't know when but they will be mine!!!!