Tama Superstar mahogany bop Kit - what to pay?

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I could get a 1980s Tama Superstar Mahogany bop kit (18x14/12x8/14x10) in good shape with a cheap Ludwig steel snare and some hardware for 750 Euro. What do you think about pricing? I would like to try but don't want to loose money if it doesn't fit. Never seen such a kit offered here. I'm a bit worried about the 14 being a rack tom. Kik
 
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Seems like a good price. Those Sup 18’s are fairly rare and command high prices. Original 18-12-14’s generally go for $1500-2000 USD.

The 14 is likely a converted rack Tom, so that would diminish the value a bit.

FWIW, I have a Sup shell bank (10-12-13-13-14-15-16-18 ) I got from orphans and converted the 18 to a bass drum, all for about $1000. It’s the originality that drives the price up.
 

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The 10 x14 will be your floor tom; and from where we sit; can't tell the difference ; )
Would have been nice if it was 12X14 but it isn't..
Like TPC says old SS 18" Bds are Rare
and it has the 12..
Just don't look underneath at the 10x14 and you'll be good Johnny
 

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The current Starclassics used a 14x11 hanging rack tom as the initial floor tom. It's a loud drum. I've had the 14x10 superstars before and they are potent. It's ok as a bop floor tom - worth about $125 in average condition. I sold my mint cherry wine one for $150. The 12x8 is a desirable drum worth about $150. The bass drum is the key - figure it's worth $400-$600 as a bass drum. If it's a cut down 18x16 floor tom...then only $150-$225. A real 1980's all birch Superstar bop kit (12,14,18- is worth $1200-$1500. The rare 14x14 floor tom is $400-$600. There was a discussion here on one of those kits just in the past few months. I think they were Super Maple finish. And it was a factory kit.

Tama's 80's Superstar extra size 14's are 14x13 and are quite plentiful and cheap....and not easy to sell. You really have your pick since it's a buyer's market on those. You can find them for $85-$125 as there are just too tall to mount on the bass drum. It's not the 80's or early 90's anymore. But I like them better than the 14x10 as a floor tom....very close to a 14x14 size. That's how I'd go.
 
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I could get a 1980s Tama Superstar Mahogany bop kit (18x14/12x8/14x10)
By Mahogany assume you mean the color is "the reddisH" one the Shells likely are thick birch
(O the 81 Superstar aquas I bought new I do remember..)
 

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Birch is the only wood the '76-'86 Superstars came in. Finishes were Super Mahogany, Super Maple, Cherry Wine, Green Acqua-marine, Satin/Custom Mahogany, Black and White ('85-'86 only), Candy Apple Red (also a late in the series color choice). Also some other early odd "flavors" in their very first year such as a Platina wrap in 1976 IIRC. Vintage Superstars = Birch. The finish colors confuse many people. I would have loved an Acqua set if I ever knew they had a choice. But I was too late in 1984....so chose Cherry Wine. Should have picked Super Maples though. Can't change it now....lol.
 

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I know you knew that. But figured a refresher all around couldn't hurt. The same question seems to come up every 6 months or so.
 
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Here is my original 1985 Superstar bop kit 18/12/14 in piano black with a 1980 Tama Bell Brass 6.5x14.

Beautiful Kit! The contrast in sound bop vs bell brass surely is incredible.

I have an aquamarine bop kit, circa 1981. But I also have all the toms from 6" to 16" to augment. Kind of crazy to have them all up, with an 18" bass!
 

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