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- Aug 12, 2020
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- Wood River, IL
You know the old saying: originally, only about 100 people bought the first Velvet Underground album, but they all started bands.I agree, but I'd go even further and say that not only did VU influence a handful of bands that came out of CBGBs and a few others but that they had an influence of much of the whole punk movement and particularly the music that came after that, post-punk. I'd argue that they had an influence on any band that had a droning, repetitive, hypnotic sound. I hear the kind of churning guitar sound of VU in the sound of the first few U2 records (but also to some extent in their later stuff) and U2, like them or not (I really only like those early records) are one of the biggest musical artists of the last 40 years. There are tons and tons of others too that I hear VU in. Some seemed to take just one VU tune as a template and run with that. Some folks took a big influence from the band yet, don't necessarily do too much that references their sound directly... and I would put Brain Eno in that camp, himself one of the most influential musicians since he started out in the 70s...
Haha . Now that is funny. I can imagine that dilettante wannabe doing just that. The HOF should be renamed the Jan Wenner's House of Guys I Wish I was as Cool As.The best story about Rush's hall of fame induction was Neil talking about Jan Wenner trying to tell everyone what tempo to play Crossroads in the mass jam.
In the subjective realm of taste, that may be the case. But their influence is staggering, as can be seen by entire genres of music in which they are foundational. Two areas of rock music where they probably have had no influence: what they today call "Prog," and bands like Toto (highly skilled, etc.). There are others, too.They were horrible.
Would it be fair to surmise that fans are starting to not see the RRHOF the same way after years of snubs and questionable inductions?I'd like to think that if I were a famous rock musician I wouldn't give the RRHOF a second thought. It's a joke. But I'm sure the desire to be recognized would eventually get me too.
Yes. The snubs are petty, and it's lost all meaning by inducting non rock artists. The latter is the worst part. By trying to be more inclusive, and presumably more relevant, they diluted their identity and became irrelevant.Would it be fair to surmise that fans are starting to not see the RRHOF the same way after years of snubs and questionable inductions?
I know very little about the R&R Hall of Fame. But these arguments seem to come up every year with people advocating for and against bands or performers getting in. I get the impression it's evolved into little more than a cool kids table, even if it started out as something more.
Am I wrong? I'd really like to know. I'd also like to be wrong on this.
Kids is exactly right. No one gets into music to make it to the RnR Hall Of Fame, so why others feel the need to praise those who do, or defend those who aren’t in, is beyond my comprehension. What exactly does it do for anyone to care that their band gets in or not? As Sonny said in Bronx Tale, ‘what do you care that Mickey Mantle had a bad day at the plate? When you have a bad day does he give a s**t about you?’