These are classic maples... right?

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Got these on CL today. I’m assuming they’re 90’s classic maples, but does anyone know better than I do? Looks like the bass came with two sets of spurs, only one set remains. They’re a bit nicked up here and there, looks like a 12-13-14-22 (maybe power tom depths). Anyone have an idea of value? Thinking of selling them- they came with a COB Supra, which I’m keeping.
 

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Not really called "Classic Maple", just the "Classic" line of drums. Those HUGE Modular mounts were really tone killers! Still, lots of drummers loved the look...while others didn't!! There's just not enough pictures to give an educated guess on pricing.

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Could be Classics or Super Classics which are pre-Classic Maple. I believe they went to 100% maple in the mid/later 90’s but early 90’s they were still doing maple & poplar. Classics were thicker and Super Classics were thinner from what I remember.
 

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yea there two option shells also the option of long or classic lug. Nice time then the wood finishes were- yea they put some time into them
The catalog I would say is---> 1994 great catalog--like Ludwig was actually "happy"..-->


Here's one page pulled-->

as far as options there's--in the black box the two shell 4P and 6P and the Two lug choices.
IMO about their last best catalog 1994.
 
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Those might have been late 80s or very early 90s. Again, more pictures would be helpful, but it sounds like you're describing the double-curved spurs from the 80s drums. They introduced the long lugs as an option in 89, but by 94, modern spurs had replaced the double curved ones.

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I have what I was told, a late 80's Classic kit. The 16x22 bass came with two sets of spurs but with standard lugs. The toms are deep, 12x13, 13x14, 16x16 and 16x18 with a 6.5x14 Supra. Wood is Maple, Poplar, Maple. They came with the Modular mounting system but has been changed to RIMS then ATLAS. Nice drums!!

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Got these on CL today. I’m assuming they’re 90’s classic maples, but does anyone know better than I do? Looks like the bass came with two sets of spurs, only one set remains. They’re a bit nicked up here and there, looks like a 12-13-14-22 (maybe power tom depths). Anyone have an idea of value? Thinking of selling them- they came with a COB Supra, which I’m keeping.
Classic Maple came out in 1998.
Never seen any with Mach hardware.
I'm guessing 6 ply "Classic"....different shell than "Classic MAPLE".

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Could be Classics or Super Classics which are pre-Classic Maple. I believe they went to 100% maple in the mid/later 90’s but early 90’s they were still doing maple & poplar. Classics were thicker and Super Classics were thinner from what I remember.
Classic Maple heralded in the 100% Maple shell in 1998.
Before that, everything was Maple/Poplar composite shell.
Classic Maple originally used a 9 ply shell 6mm thick. Since about 2002 or 2003, that shell changed to a 7 ply layup, but remains 6mm thick.
Classic was 6 ply 3/8" thick.
Super Classic was originally a 4 ply shell, 5/16" thick, but was replaced during the last year/year and a half, by the former "vintage" shell which was 5 plys, reinforced, 6.1mm thick, also Maple/Poplar.
Ludwig ceased production of composite shells in spring of 1998 and did not start composite shell production back up until the advent of the Legacy shell (with exception to snare drums and marching gear).

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Classic Maple heralded in the 100% Maple shell in 1998.
Before that, everything was Maple/Poplar composite shell.
Classic Maple originally used a 9 ply shell 6mm thick. Since about 2002 or 2003, that shell changed to a 7 ply layup, but remains 6mm thick.
Classic was 6 ply 3/8" thick.
Super Classic was originally a 4 ply shell, 5/16" thick, but was replaced during the last year/year and a half, by the former "vintage" shell which was 5 ply 6.1mm thick, also Maple/Poplar.
Ludwig ceased production of composite shells in spring of 1998 and did not start composite shell production back up until the advent of the Legacy shell (with exception to snare drums and marching gear).

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Yes indeed! 3/8" is 9.5 mm, so a really thick shell. My 1990 Classic kit has two 16" x 26" bass drums and each of those things weighs a TON! But man, do those Classic drums project!
 

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Thanks for all the info! I got them, with the COB pre serial supra, 13” black panther snare, plus all sorts of hardware and things for 500. I don’t really need this set but couldn’t pass it up. I might try to sell the set and the black Panther snare and hardware for what I paid for the lot.
 

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Thanks for all the info! I got them, with the COB pre serial supra, 13” black panther snare, plus all sorts of hardware and things for 500. I don’t really need this set but couldn’t pass it up. I might try to sell the set and the black Panther snare and hardware for what I paid for the lot.
Hi Classicdrummer! Your purchase price was more than fair!! Hope you can post some nice clear pictures once they arrive. Congrats!

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I had a set of classics that I bought new in 1990. They had the modular hardware on the tom and they sounded great. I never had any issues with those mounts choking the tom sound. The wrap was another story.
 

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Yeah, I've got a 15x12 late Chicago marcher someone turned into a floor tom.
Chrome-O-wrap, with the riveted interlocking seam.
No sign of lift and it adds a cool visual effect.
...btw, I've amended my prior post, as I left a tiny little detail out.
For those who caught it, apologies for the omission.

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you are not talking Ludwig Black Panther snare, I take it?
The kit you are showing looks like Classic 6-ply Emerald Shadow finish. My guess.

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Yes indeed! 3/8" is 9.5 mm, so a really thick shell. My 1990 Classic kit has two 16" x 26" bass drums and each of those things weighs a TON! But man, do those Classic drums project!
Well, it was the 70's. =)

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No, because 3 ply Ludwig shells are reinforced.
However, it appears you have a 4 ply Super Classic shell.
1988 and later.
Nominally 5/16" thick (8mm).
Are there date codes present? (NOT the badge serial! :angry5: )

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No, because 3 ply Ludwig shells are reinforced.
However, it appears you have a 4 ply Super Classic shell.
1988 and later.
Nominally 5/16" thick (8mm).
Are there date codes present? (NOT the badge serial! :angry5: )

Elvis
Very cool! No date codes that I can see. They do feel a little lighter, although it’s tough to tell since the hardware is so huge.
 

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You've got the Thin and Lightweight shell of that time. ;)
 


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