Thinking I have an early Slingerland Artist single ply snare.....

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Hey guys just picked up this snare. It is 5 1/2 X 14" with 8 lugs and a serial number of 11901.

I think it is an early, maybe 63?, Slingerland Artist snare due to the badge and serial number and Zoomatic strainer. I also think it is a single ply but I know it can be tricky to tell at times. What do you think as far as year, single or 3 ply, etc.?

A quick look shows it needs some love as far as polishing up the hoops and hardware. The Dark Blue Sparkle wrap is nice and bright and tight but there are a couple of scuffs, some tape residue, and a single ding next to the badge. A few of the tension rods are not original. It has COB hoops but one of the snare holes on the snare side hoop is bent.

The re-rings have a fair bit of figure and birdseye. I could not find any markings inside other than a pencil mark for the snare bed.

It came with a hard case but I'm not sure if it is original as it doesn't have Slingerland anywhere on it and I'm not sure when those types of cases started to be produced.

There were a few interesting goodies in the case. The most being what looks like a MIJ knockoff of a Slingerland snare stand. It is actually kind of cool and is very light. There were some drumsticks pre-wrapped for me. The interesting sticks are the Ludwig Sticks Thrasher 22A's. Never seen those sticks before and had no luck looking them up. There was a CB 700 vacuum practice pad. There was also a baggie of bass drum claws/tension rods, snare tension rods/washers (so may I have all of the original rods and washers for this snare) and an L rod.

This should be a fun project.

What do you guys think?
 

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Pics of the shell and inside.
 

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I think I see the mahogany ply inside the wrap, if that is the case you seem to have a drum with an unusually dense/well preserved poplar middle ply
 

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Looks like solid maple to me. I have a Niles pre-serial number snare with 3-pt strainer, and the bearing edges look like that, and it's solid maple. That darkish line next to the wrap could, I think, be the red sparkle reverse side of the blue. Seems that's been mentioned here or somewhere before although in regard to Ludwig drums. Your scarf joint overlap looks like one ply to me, too.
 

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I believe you are right in it being a '63 Artist series snare based on the serial number, which would make it a single ply maple shell. I have a 1965 in the exact same color. Mine luckily still had the original heads and snare wires on it. I don't think that anyone still makes wires like they originally had on them though. They are extended wires, but only on the butt side (picture attached). I wouldn't worry about finding them anyway though, they probably sound better with a regular wire setup on them anyway.
 

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Your pictures aren't very good (not close enough, shadows) and combined with DFOs small picture size limitations I couldn't say without some clearer, closer pictures of the edges, but it appears to be a solid shell.
 

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Hey guys. This is as good as I can get right now with my phone camera. Thin Shell is correct about the lighting and shadows. Some of the pics show a lighter/shiny layer close to the wrap which I think is light reflecting off of a part of the bearing edge that the head wears on when tensioned possibly. Not sure. Sometimes I think I might see a layer on a spot and then a couple of inches away I don't. Could be layers, could be variations in the wood, could be lighting?.......
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I'm inclined to say one ply. The edge of the shell itself appears to have the same "rays" that you see on the re rings. The last picture does give me pause because it almost looks like three plies.

Looks like you won the lottery.
 

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Serial 11901 is early '63. It's a single ply Artist. In early '63 the 3-ply shell still had a mahogany inner ply that would be very obvious. All the other features make sense.
 

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Thank you folks for the replies, it is greatly appreciated!

I should have thought of this earlier. I forgot I had brought my 65 Slingerland 3 ply 6 lug Gold Sparkle home after our last practice 2 months ago.

I grabbed it to look at the plies and snapped a couple of pics. I didn't take the resonant head off so couldn't really get a good pic of the whole bearing edge but the different plies were obvious. Especially the scarf joint for the shell. I could see the inner maple ply doubled over at the joint up against the re-ring. The scarf was actually at the snare bed so getting a good pic was hard with the snares wires on and reflection off of the angled resonant head there.

Here are pics of the 65, NOT the snare I originally posted about.

This 6 lugger is actually my favorite and most used snare. It is beautiful.

I'm looking forward to seeing how the 8 lug Artist compares after getting it race ready.
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I'm inclined to say one ply. The edge of the shell itself appears to have the same "rays" that you see on the re rings. The last picture does give me pause because it almost looks like three plies.

Looks like you won the lottery.
Thanks. This is my first single ply snare. I'm looking forward to seeing see how it sounds!
 

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I believe you are right in it being a '63 Artist series snare based on the serial number, which would make it a single ply maple shell. I have a 1965 in the exact same color. Mine luckily still had the original heads and snare wires on it. I don't think that anyone still makes wires like they originally had on them though. They are extended wires, but only on the butt side (picture attached). I wouldn't worry about finding them anyway though, they probably sound better with a regular wire setup on them anyway.
Thanks for the picture of yours. If the original style isn't available, I'll probably go with the Canopus Vintage Dry wires.
 

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Serial 11901 is early '63. It's a single ply Artist. In early '63 the 3-ply shell still had a mahogany inner ply that would be very obvious. All the other features make sense.
Thanks for the insight on the 3 ply shells.
 


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