This seems an outrageous and indefensible statement to me.I would not put any stock in any posts on any drum forum about a supposed drop in the quality of DW drums. Some drummers don't like the look, some don't like the sound, some don't like their image and marketing, but anyone that's claiming that the quality is lacking is not to be taken seriously, IMHO.
i did in fact have a Champagne Glass glitter DW Jazz series kit 18/12/14 . It was a really well built nice sounding kit . It sounded VERY close to a Gretsch USA Custom kit . I thought the DW Jazz was built better than the Gretsch USA Custom kits I have owned.Assume you’re going to get a variety of responses. I am not sure there is a huge number of DW fans on this forum, but there definitely are some. I’ve owned several DW drums in the past but never one of the Jazz series. IIRC, @NobleCooleyNut had some at one point? But I’m not sure.
I’ve owned a variety of their snare drums in both metal alloys and wood types. All have been very nice drums. Ultimately I sold them because I felt I could get equivalent performance and sound for less money, and that’s proved to be true. That doesn’t mean that others won’t prefer the DW options, they just haven’t been keepers for me. Only one do I miss, a 6.5x14 copper Collector’s snare. It was a better sounding copper drum than the others I’ve owned. I have yet to own a full set of their drums, wouldn’t be opposed to it but they would have to be a great price for me to pull the trigger.How was your experience with your DW drums? What did you replace them with?
Here's some advice for you - read through a post at least twice before you attempt to put words in somebody's mouth.This seems an outrageous and indefensible statement to me.
Without knowing the specific claim how do you dismiss it unilaterally?
You basically just said that, without even looking into it or knowing specifics, anybody on any drum forum who states that they had quality issues with DW is a liar while inferring that they only made this statement because they don’t like DWs sound or image or marketing.
How does someone “like” this statement?
We just had a member here who had quality issues with a new DW kit. Hopefully I can provide a little cover fire for him to at least relate his experience for context.
never owned one never in the same room with one Mark (used to be here) (Father Shiner) had a yellow swirl DW Jazz series and raved a bunch about. This imo is one of the best demonstration --of the Jazz series-->I am intrigued by their Jazz series
For 1,000,000 time... DW does not own Gretsch. They are the exclusive distributor for Gretsch and the two companies have a partnership, but Fred Gretsch owns Gretsch. Period. Maybe you didn't know the facts and if so, then now you do. But to say DW owns Gretsch is perpetuating incorrect information.fun fact: DW owns Gretsch lol
You’re sophistry does not work on me. I stand by what I said.Here's some advice for you - read through a post at least twice before you attempt to put words in somebody's mouth.
Here's what Jazzhead wrote:
Also, I recently read on the forum that the quality of their drums has dropped for some reason, not sure it that is true or how that’s happened.
What that implies to me, and pretty much everyone else on the forum apparently, is that he has concerns that every drum that DW is making is being made to a lower quality standard. That's the basis for my reply, which I'm going to paste here:
I would not put any stock in any posts on any drum forum about a supposed drop in the quality of DW drums. Some drummers don't like the look, some don't like the sound, some don't like their image and marketing, but anyone that's claiming that the quality is lacking is not to be taken seriously, IMHO.
You're trying to twist my first sentence around and claim that I'm saying that DW doesn't have individual quality issues with any of their drums. What I wrote was in response to what Jazzhead wrote in the sentence I quoted. If he had written that he had read here that a forum member (singular) was having quality issues with his new DW kit, my response would have been "No drum company makes 100% perfect drums, and DW has a great track record of standing behind their products. I'm sure they will take care of the issues. I wouldn't make the exception the rule."
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT HE ASKED! The other forum members and I are able to make that distinction, so if you're not, that's your issue to deal with. I can appreciate that you're looking out for a forum member who is dealing with quality issues with a DW kit, but misinterpreting statements and twisting words is not the way to do it.
Outrageous is twisting my words and implying that I'm calling anyone with quality issues with DW drums a liar.
For 1,000,000 time... DW does not own Gretsch. They are the exclusive distributor for Gretsch and the two companies have a partnership. Fred Gretsch owns Gretsch. Period. Maybe you didn't know the facts and if so, then now you do. But to say DW owns Gretsch is perpetuating incorrect information.