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From last Thursday. Headlining Rickshaw Stop, SF. I enjoyed the “no diving” sign. From the stage there is a sign in the back of that big hanging PA speaker that advises you not to climb or swing on it.... The speaker stack/array to the left of the acoustic guitar are the drummer’s monitors.
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I literally just finished setting most of this kit up for the first time. Perfect time to see this thread.
The kit was basically gifted to me from neighbors that are moving. I did tell them it could be worth $, so I gave them a couple bucks.
I think the couple thought I was doing them a favor by taking it. It was their son's, and haven't seen daylight since the mid 80's. I still have to finish setting it up tomorrow, and put some new heads on it. I've seen these, in poor condition, go for quite a bit of bread. I'll play em for a few weeks, record em, and see if I can make a little change.
1983, 10 peice Artstar. Thoes toms are ridiculously large
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Wow, I never had a kit that was so well liked. Thanks!
Why is this kit so desirable?
 

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I literally just finished setting most of this kit up for the first time. Perfect time to see this thread.
The kit was basically gifted to me from neighbors that are moving. I did tell them it could be worth $, so I gave them a couple bucks.
I think the couple thought I was doing them a favor by taking it. It was their son's, and haven't seen daylight since the mid 80's. I still have to finish setting it up tomorrow, and put some new heads on it. I've seen these, in poor condition, go for quite a bit of bread. I'll play em for a few weeks, record em, and see if I can make a little change.
1983, 10 peice Artstar. Thoes toms are ridiculously large View attachment 409350
My neighbors SUCK! They never gift me amazing drum sets...
 

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My neighbors SUCK! They never gift me amazing drum sets...
Ha! Most of mine do too. If they were next door neighbors, I would have gotten a bag of burning dog poop on my porch.
I just happened to talk to the right people, at the right time
 

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Wow, I never had a kit that was so well liked. Thanks!
Why is this kit so desirable?
I would guess the main thing is people admiring the score, that you got a large amount of nice quality drums for cheap.

They are great drums. I’m hedging around the word “desirable” though because those tom sizes are not popular right now. It might take a little time to find the right buyer for them, at a decent price.
 

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I would guess the main thing is people admiring the score, that you got a large amount of nice quality drums for cheap.

They are great drums. I’m hedging around the word “desirable” though because those tom sizes are not popular right now. It might take a little time to find the right buyer for them, at a decent price.
Gotcha. Yeah, that's not a kit I'd like to take on gigs with me, with a surgically repaired back. I've been checking ebay, just to see it's value.
I've only seen 1, or 2 of these kits for sale, at ridiculously high prices.
Don't get me wrong, that was the best score I ever got' and I'm super grateful!
 

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I literally just finished setting most of this kit up for the first time. Perfect time to see this thread.
The kit was basically gifted to me from neighbors that are moving. I did tell them it could be worth $, so I gave them a couple bucks.
I think the couple thought I was doing them a favor by taking it. It was their son's, and haven't seen daylight since the mid 80's. I still have to finish setting it up tomorrow, and put some new heads on it. I've seen these, in poor condition, go for quite a bit of bread. I'll play em for a few weeks, record em, and see if I can make a little change.
1983, 10 peice Artstar. Thoes toms are ridiculously large View attachment 409350
When I saw Cobham in '86 he had a 9-piece kit like that. Different finish, though.
When I lived in Bremerton in '85 there was a heavy metal band that would practice next door to me and their drummer had that exact kit.
Same drums (except 24's), same finish. Just didn't have the two little "accessory drums" on the stand (at least, I never saw them).
Had Red Hydraulic heads all over that kit.
I can't believe he fit that kit in my basement. There was barely enough room 5 people to stand down there...without the kit!

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Lol, I'm guessing he kept it down there.
They guy who I got the drums from, had first told me they were 24's. Oh well, not giving them back.
Anyway, how did they sound?
I have heads on em that are 30+ years old. I'm not about to tune em.
There is some cosmetic damage, but again, I'm not going to complain.
I'm thinking the good ol Ambassador/Emporer combo.
 

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The band needed a new place to practice, so I lent them my basement....so yeah, they played down there. I would go down and watch them all the time.
Drums sounded pretty good. BIG sound. The "whumpy" hydro head sound fattened up the drums a bit and kept them from coming off too "attacky".
Use whatever head you want to on the batter side, but on the resonant side, I'd put coated DIPLOMATS on them.
Give them a really huge and resonant sound.
If you've never tried it, pick a drum and give it a shot.
I know it worked on my 10" Ludwig Classic Maple. Otherwise it would've been dry, dry, dry!


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I will give them a try. I've been using Ambassadors so long, it never gave Diplomats a thought on toms
Diplomats are crazy thin.
What the heck. I'll try it on the 8' and 16 first, to see if they'll work for all sizes
 

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I will give them a try. I've been using Ambassadors so long, it never gave Diplomats a thought on toms
Diplomats are crazy thin.
What the heck. I'll try it on the 8' and 16 first, to see if they'll work for all sizes
Cool...just remember to put the Diplomat on the bottom side of the drum.
Good luck. :thumbright:
 

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Diplomats are crazy thin.
You're probably thinking of the Diplomat weight snare side resonant heads. Those are "crazy thin." But the Diplomats used for toms are considerably thicker. You'll like them.

Back when I still worked in a music store, just on a whim, I fitted a 12" and 13" tom with clear Diplomat snare side heads. They sounded horrific. Very flappy, thin, and "whiney," with a particularly nasty after buzz. End of experiment.

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Why not? I'll give anything a shot. Ya never know unless ya try
One other thing I just remembered....Remo now makes a head called a Skyntone.
It's a Fiberskyn head, but its based on a Diplomat M5.
The difference here is the thickness of the head; Ambassadors are 10 mil thick, Diplomats are 7.5 mil thick, but the M5 is 5 mil thick.
Just a bit more than an Ambassador snare side (3 mil).
I've got a Skyntone on the front of my Ludwig bass drum.
Gives something akin to the same difference as I told you about before, but not quite as much. It also warms and fattens the sound a little, compared to a coated Diplomat.
Anyway, a little "after-dinner-snack" to chew on while you're figuring your your head situation.

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You're probably thinking of the Diplomat weight snare side resonant heads. Those are "crazy thin." But the Diplomats used for toms are considerably thicker. You'll like them.

Back when I still worked in a music store, just on a whim, I fitted a 12" and 13" tom with clear Diplomat snare side heads. They sounded horrific. Very flappy, thin, and "whiney," with a particularly nasty after buzz. End of experiment.

GeeDeeEmm
While I was experimenting with heads for my Classic Maple kit, I once tried clear Weathermaster Medium (similar to Remo Diplomat) heads top and bottom on my rack tom and noticed a nasty metallic zing to the sound.
I went back to the coated Weathermaster Heavy on top and coated Medium on the bottom.
Much nicer.
I did once try an Ambassador snare side on the bottom of my 14" floor tom, too.
Turned it into a mini-tympani (without the pitch adjustment pedal).
Pretty cool sound and I played with the idea of getting another one for the 10" rack tom, but I soon grew tired of the effect and never went that route.
Instead, I just put the coated medium back on the floor tom. A much more "useable" sound, to me.

Elvis
 
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