Too many snare wires?

JohnnyVibesAZ

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"Back in the day", I remember when Gretsch was first to come out with 42 snare wires. I HAD to have them on my Slingerland Sound King! Is there such a thing as having too many snare wires? Overkill? Your thoughts.
 

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No because all my snare wires come with snare drums attached and that is a good thing.....on the other hand I initially thought a 42 strand snare would be too much and it was....but then I reheaded an old Camco snare that I’ve tried a multitude of snares on...regular snares, George Ayotte snares, Hinger...and none of them worked to my liking.
Karma alert.......yes I took the parallel strainer/mechanism off and replaced it with a Ludwig p85....but really there were lots of Ludwig parts on Camco kits back in the day..;) Plus the mechanism went to a very good drum and home btw....
Anyway I put a Skyntone on top, ambo snare side, and some generic 42 strand snares on and yoweeeeee!!!!!!! The drum lives!!!!!
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I like the 42 strands apparently that actually chokes the sound of the snare I don’t really notice it but it does seem to make the sounds tighter crisper to my ears!
I’d be curious to hear different widths on same snare back to back
 

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It's always a crap shoot, sound-wise, to install snare wires that are wider than the snare beds. There's lots of online info about this. Snare drums that will accept 30-42 strand wires? Just about any US-made metal drums, such as Supraphonic and Acrolite snare drums. They have nice wide and shallow beds that work well with these wires!

Here's a picture of the snare beds from my 2012 "Brass Edition" snare drum. Those beds will work great with wider wires!

-Mark
 

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My first pro quality kit was a Gretsch kit and it came with a matching 5.5” snare . They had two kits the same - one snare had 42 strand wires and the other the standard 20 strand . I chose the 42 strand version . I was a young impressionable 17 year old and did not know a lot about things like snare beds and bearing edges and the like . I could never get a good sound out of this snare . It sounded horrible , boxy and insensitive . The snare went with the kit when I traded it in for another drum set . About ten years later I was talking to a guy in a local music store and it turns out he bought my old snare . He informed me that it had no snare bed or bottom bearing edge !! The snare wide head was a white head and I had never thought as a 17 year old take the head off an inspect it . I just assumed it was made correctly . Sadly that snare had soured me against wider snare wire sets since .
I have a friend that is a well known player in Toronto that loves the 42 strand snares and keeps trying to talk me into putting them on some of my snares again .
 

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The only snare I ever had with 42s on it was a Dunnett. Now that I refuse to play his drums anymore, I don't have it. It sounded good but I did prefer fewer wires. Nowadays 20 is the most I use, and those are chrome plated "snappy" wires for when I want extra snarey-ness. I often prefer a little darker response and a little more shell tone, which means I tend toward German steel wires or sometimes Puresound Equalizers. I even have some Grover cable snares for those times when I want a lot more shell tone than snare tone.
 

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I like a lot of snare but that usually kills the body. I like a lot of dark knock.
 

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I have never been pleased with the results of 42-strand wire, even on wide-bed drums like Acros and Supras. Maybe I haven't tried enough tuning options with them, and maybe I should expand my Gretsch horizons, but it always sounded like all snare and no drum to me. Then again, I like to buy cheap sets of 10-12 wire snares and snip several of the wires off.

This is why I want to know whether Yamaha is ever going to sell just the wire for the Gadd signature snare.
 

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They're all tools that combine with other tools to meet the needs of different applications.
 

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I've always used the snare unit included by the manufacturer (it's part of the drum's design) except for my Gretsch 4158. When I got that drum in 1984 it came from Gretsch with a 42-strand snare unit, and I thought it made the drum sound 'boxy' and lifeless, and it made the stick response sluggish. I swapped it for a no-name 20-strand unit and the drum's sound opened right up and it played crisp and light. Those 42 strands were just too much mass against the snare head.
 

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I have 42s on most of my snares. I do a lot of rolls, drags, and ghosts. The extra rattle and wet sound is something I prefer usually.
 


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