Torn btw good sound and an ugly cymbal....

slinginit

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Anyone ever experienced this? Perhaps ugly is too strong but it gets your attention.

I really really really like the sound of the Bosphorus Sultan rides (medium 20s are yummy). They have a real balance (IMHO) of click, ping, and spread with a smokey cushion well beneath the attack. They're articulate without being "pingy", and each stick sound has multiple dimensions waiting to be exploited by the drummer (visualize Mapex's 3-sided beater). Beautiful! Here's the rub: the cymbals LOOK like multi-colored archery targets from day camp. I appreciate the concept of alternate lathing/unlathing, but I just can't get over the look. I know we "should" buy for sound, not look, as that ultimately counts, but sometimes I can not rectify what's pleasing to the ear is not so pleasing to the eye.

Anyone have this experience with these cymbals or any others? Did you end up buying a subsitute or buying the real deal, looks be damned?
 

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I don't care what they look like if they sound good.

My 2 main crashes are both Sabian HH.. one bright, one with heavy patina.. don't care, they sound good.

FWIW - I love the look of those Bosphorus.
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It seems possible that "the look" is caused by the lathing and hammering patterns, and that "the sound" is a result of those same factors.
If you like the sound then jump on it!
 

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It is the alternating bands of lathing / non-lathing that give it the appearance, but undoubtedly contribute to the cymbal's sound. I guess I have some hang ups on the "archery targets", but I'm trying to get over that.

Cheers!
 

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No contest. Not even a consideration. Shouldn't be a consideration. If it feels good when your eyes are closed you've found it. Same with women and Crystal Pepsi for that matter.
 

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Dude said:
Crystal Pepsi


:lol: :lol: :lol:

I'd say the majority would go for Sound first. I personally like the spiral look.
 

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Wanting to play something that also looks good is certainly a valid goal, especially if performing on stage is part of that goal. If not, why would drummers care about playing drumsets that look really cool?

Maybe just keep using it until you find one that looks great and sounds as good or better. Then dump the Sultan.

It's clear from your post that looks matter to you so go with your own desires.
 

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slinginit said:
Anyone have this experience with these cymbals or any others? Did you end up buying a subsitute or buying the real deal, looks be damned?


Four or five years ago, I found the last two cymbals in a batch of Dark Energy prototypes in stock at a local Guitar Center. This one came home with me, and to this day it rivals my pre-serial 602s as my favorite and most-used ride:



The other proto looked very similar. I'm certain that the reason those were the last two unsold cymbals in the batch was their unusual appearance. Personally, I love the way my cymbal looks.

My only regret is that I didn't buy the second one as well.
 

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i love the look... even more because it creates the sound. I first got interested in the bos antique line because of the target look... then i heard them and loved the sound. that caused me to buy a set of 13" antique hats.
 

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What's the bottom line of having a cymbal...the sound, right? If you were blind, this would be a non-issue. Fortunately, you have your sight. So MHO is, get 'em as ugly as you can IF they sound good!
 

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The "ugly" look that you describe is one of the reasons that I have several Masterworks cymbals ... and would also take a long look/listen to Sultans and other exotic looking cymbals.

Kinda difficult to really explain but I'll pass on a nice looking cymbal if the sound is not what I'm looking for ... but I'll also pass on an exotic looking cymbal for the same reason.

Sound is sound and looks are looks ... sometimes you can have the best of both worlds!!


Robb
 

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slinginit said:
Anyone ever experienced this?
No.

It never bothered Stevie Wonder either, and he's made some great sounding recordings.
 

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Her we go again: I had one of those too.Why am I like this?Apprentice says to the carpenter: "Hey boss I've cut this board three times and its still too short..."Just for today I will not trade anything.
I digress. OK that sultan cymbals a real treasure. The target helped me to stay focused and was kind of cheerful at the same time. BennyK. P.S. Jack Palance had women at his feet forever an he wasn't no elvis.
 

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I have a hang up on brilliant finished cymbals, mostly the looks, but also I haven't really been fond of the sound of most of them either...
 

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I played a jojo mayer 21" Fierce Ride today ( Sabian Vault).. loved it. my next purchase when funds are good..... lol i'll have a long wait! :)
its an unfinished/unlathed state which helps the dry "tah" stick sound.. I quite like its earthy finish
 

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James Walker said:
slinginit said:
Anyone have this experience with these cymbals or any others? Did you end up buying a subsitute or buying the real deal, looks be damned?


Four or five years ago, I found the last two cymbals in a batch of Dark Energy prototypes in stock at a local Guitar Center. This one came home with me, and to this day it rivals my pre-serial 602s as my favorite and most-used ride:



The other proto looked very similar. I'm certain that the reason those were the last two unsold cymbals in the batch was their unusual appearance. Personally, I love the way my cymbal looks.


My only regret is that I didn't buy the second one as well.





I believe thats a Dimensions Dry Ride not a dark energy proto.Either way a great instrument. BennyK.
 

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I like giving ugly cymbals a good home. Sometimes the ugly ones sound one helluvalot better.
 

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