No offense, but using boom stands, to me, has ZERO bearing on ride placement--it still has to go essentially right where the 2nd tom is, regardless of how it is flown. It either has to go above or slightly off to the side (unless you go for the "over the floors" setup). Plus I personally can't STAND any cymbal that can't have a full range of motion i.e. Partially covering a tom, so in my mind it needs to go UP or OVER. Not a lot of room to compromise unless you just run 1 upIn the era of boom cymbal stands, the ride placement should not be an issue - not that it ever was with me as I like the ride over my floor tom more than over the bass drum .... I just like 4 piece kits .....
Comfortable access to my right side ride cymbal is more important than an extra tom.Why do most jazz players seem to go for one tom up while most other styles are played two toms up? I know there are exceptions but generally why this distinction? WHat do you do as a player? (I'm two up but only cause that is the kit I have
I currently have 4 up, which was difficult to fit and hard to tune. I need at least two in each spot though. A lot of the music I love just doesn't sound right on 1U/1D.I play a lot of different types of music, and for me 2 toms up and 2 toms down works best. I don't HAVE to have that many, but I definitely prefer it. A 6 piece kit is kinda the Goldilocks size for me. Not too big like the Neil Peart type kits, but not too small either like bop kits. It's all about what feels best to you as an individual. Everyone is different!
Funny, the first thing I think is this guy is lazy.When I walk into a club and see a kit like Toms on stage I immediately know I'm about to see a great drummer. If you know rudiments and how to use them, 4 shells is plenty and you can usually find something cool laying around the room to add in for color.
I do this. Second Tom is right in the middle of the bass drum. Works great for me.I like one up 2 down myself. But I recently saw a band where the drummer had the second rack tom directly over the bass drum and the first rack tom directly to the left of it. Kinda a compromise between rack toms right over the bass drum (compromising the ride position) and having them offset to the left (compromising the hi hat position). I may have to try that if I ever go back to two rack toms.
Hi Slofut! Thank you for the compliment. I'm hardly a "great drummer", I just listen and do my best to play what fits the song. The puny kit helps keep me from overplaying and maintain the emphesis on the music as a whole. I'm not "Mr. Chops", people come to hear THE BAND, not me. That BD is from an old Rhythm Traveler kit. It's 8x20 and I added some nice maple hoops to it and a Ludwig cymbal arm & holder. I'd stated in another thread how pleased and surprised I was at the sonic difference those hoops made. If you're unfamiliar, Rhythm Travelers are complete 5 piece kits (cheesy cymbals included!) that Pearl sold for $500! That 8x20 bass drum is from an earlier version of the RT kit, and current versions have a bass drum that looks more like a floor tom sitting sideways. Someone on eBay was selling just the bass drum, and I bought it to use at rehearsals. When I was a kid, skinny bass drums like that were called "Scotch" bass drums. I had a hard time finding a case for it! Eventually I found an old 14x20 Tuxedo bag and had an auto upholster trim it down for me to fit the drum. It's only a 6-lug drum, but it sounds remarkably good in the little clubs I've been playing in lately. I get a lot of compliments on it. The snare is a '65 Ludwig Jazz Combo. Hi hat is a Ludwig 1124 with 13" K's. Nice little rig, I'm loving it!Tom, did you cut down that kicker or was it that thin from the factory? I'd want something on the floor though, I'm not that good...
I confess I'm pretty lazy! Lately I've been playing Creole music, blues shuffles and a few standards with a piano-sax-drums trio in a tiny club. At first I was using only snare & hat! I added the BD because we don't use a bass player, so kicking 4-on-the-floor helps maintain the groove. I just got a yellow "Blast Block" to add. Hope I'm not over-doing it!!Funny, the first thing I think is this guy is lazy.