Update on bitten by Gretsch. Bass drum found!

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Kurt, the bass we discussed has modern Bermuda inlay - it looks very close and great from 5' away. As for the above cracks, hard to tell if it will spread. I would inject some some glue under the edge along the width of each side, then get a little gloss poly on top to seal the crack.
 

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From left to right: original inlay, modern Bermuda sand inlay, and the vintage wrap on the drum. I think the Gretsch hoops were lacquered after installing the inlays and the lacquer turns yellow when it ages, hence the inlays are even more yellowed than the drum itself.
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I actually got some vintage wrap to replace the modern inlays about 10 years ago, but I haven't bothered doing it...
 

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Bermuda sand is pretty good. I also have a Gretsch USA modern 14x14 in champagne and it is pale and barely sparkles - yet brand new wrap. It looks dead next to vintage and Bermuda.
 

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Hey guys, hopefully this gets seen. I have been working my way through cleaning up the Gretsch pieces I bought. I am in need of a few things and I am wondering if the new stuff is compatible with the old? I need one muffler for the tom as well as a diamond tom mount. I'm also probably going to get a reproduction Micro for the snare as well. Drum Center Portsmouth has the muffler and the Micro but I can't seem to find the tom mount anywhere unless it's used vintage. I know Gretsch makes it now because I see it on vintage build sets. I could just buy vintage but it would be nice to get everything at once in the same place. Plus the drums I have are so nice, I would need to find a near mint bracket and the new stuff is probably cheaper than vintage and looks new. Just wondering if I should just look for vintage or if anyone knows what the part number is on that diamond mount. When I google it, I get either vintage ones or the floor tom leg mounts. Thanks!
 

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Thanks for that! I just responded.

you mean the Clip consolette small tom mount.
Is that what it is called? I know my Ludwig stuff but I'm a bit murky with Gretsch. Thanks!
 

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I just picked the matching 20" bass drum to make this progressive jazz a complete set! Everything matches perfectly and I am looking forward to getting them dialed in. I am very happy to get this set complete and together. Thanks for everyone's help and input on this.




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Awesome!! Congrats.

I’d like a tour of your music room there.
 

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(find a 16 x 16 match and convert to bass) for the easy and fun gigs )

Not a bad idea....

Question for the RB owners that use a rail. I have the small spade that came with the bass drum I just got and I also found a longer spade in my parts bin. The small spade seems to put the tom too low and it has to part way down the rail and angle up so the bottom of the tom does not hit the rail. The longer spade puts the tom and a better spot but the length of the spade itself hits the rail when put down as low as it will go and I would like to get the tom a little lower. I understand that this long spade probably works great with an 18" bass drum but IMO it's too long for a 20. My questions are:

Does anyone make a spade that is not as long as the one I have? I did a google search and did not see too much.

Should I just cut down the spade I have to where it works for me?

I'm not sure I want to use the small spade but will keep it as I might like having the tom that low sometimes for maybe jazz or something.

I also have to crank the heck out of the bolts on the rail to get everything to stay put. Is there something I can do to increase the grip?

I must say, after being a Ludwig guy for so many years I really appreciate their willingness to improve upon something. Even if it is little. Ludwig was pretty much using a two bolt rail like Gretsch bur switched to a four bolt by early 60's. That telephone dial on the rail was used up until around 1967 too where they came out with one with much better grip and posistioning options. Ludwig also started with spring loaded legs that changed to legs that threaded a wingnut directly to the leg. By late 1965 they used an eye bolt that tightened around the leg giving better stability. The floor tom legs were also changed so the grip would work better. For a lot of these reasons I can see why 1967-69 Ludwig drum really appeal to me. The hardware is what it is with Gretsch and while these drums sound fantastic, it's kind of sad that they could have made some pretty minor changes to have better working stuff. Maybe so many Gretsch drums wouldn't have been drilled out with competitors hardware.
 

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