Vintage Paiste 602's

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I am starting to get into Paiste 602's. I had heard Don Henley used them on the old Eagles tunes and I always liked his cymbal sound. I have a Bonham sized set up of Giant Beats. I also had the Bonham sized 2002's, but sold those a couple of years ago. I have had some Signature cymbals, and still have an old Sound Creation 20" Bright Ride I was planning to sell, but may hang onto it for a while longer.

I recently picked up some old drums and included was a 14" Paiste 602 hi-hat cymbal that had been paired with an old Zildjian A that has the turned mostly green from where another cymbal as stacked on it. I will clean up the Zildjan with some Groove Juice and thought I would try some on the 602 hi-hat cymbal as well. Has anyone used Groove Juice? Any concerns with it on the 602?

I picked up a vintage 19" Medium (I suppose) on a trade this weekend. The previous owner called it a crash / ride. I haven't gotten to try it out yet. I am having an issue with my wrist for some reason and want to give it some time to feel better.

I will probably look for an 18" crash and a 20" ride to go with what I have.

Are there any vintage 602 lovers here?
 

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few one-night stands; still have an 18 sss China, 19 with a wedge cutout; 18 with a slice and pin, a 14 top thats perfect, a 14 that dark brown to black (patinaed), and a 14" Sound edge bottom. Last two have edge nick fissures about 1".
All preserial except for the China (1978

so not a full set ; sold off the 22, the 18 flat and 20 I had..
still have paiste cool some vintage stickers and catalogs)
Use to have 8 or 9 Sound Creations.
had to taste finally the preserial 602s to make sure I wasn't missing anything.
had signatures, 2oo2s, 2ooo, (even a) brass tones along with the SC's all in a prior life.
like to bundle the remain 6 (ps +1) 602s in a $300 bundle when I find the right guy
the three hi hats are fun to mix and match
 
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Every single person that Ive ever seen who reported using groove juice on ANY paiste cymbals has said they completely ruined the coating and finish on them. I would ABSOLUTELY NOT USE groove juice on any paiste cymbals. I recently used FLITZ polish on my paiste reflector 3000 and it worked fantastically if you're looking for another option.
 

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I have a blue label 19” medium ride. It feels so different from other Z’s and Sabians I’ve played and has challenged me to consider other sounds rather than forever chasing dark rides.
 

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Every single person that Ive ever seen who reported using groove juice on ANY paiste cymbals has said they completely ruined the coating and finish on them. I would ABSOLUTELY NOT USE groove juice on any paiste cymbals. I recently used FLITZ polish on my paiste reflector 3000 and it worked fantastically if you're looking for another option.
I am so glad I posted that question before using. Thanks so much for the heads up!

I am guessing that the ones without Serial Numbers (like mine) though likely never had a clear finish on them.
 
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Here's the stamp from my 18. The only Paiste I have. Don't know stamp dates but I assume it's a 60's. This cymbal rivals the 18 Small Stamp A I have. A beautiful trio ride with a nice clear stick with minimal wash.

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That looks like my stamps as well. Mine do NOT have serial numbers.
 

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I am guessing that the ones without Serial Numbers (like mine) though likely never had a clear finish on them.
No problem. Another mild cleaner I use is Mothers Chrome Polish. Just try to find mild automotive cleaners with carnuba that also clean and polish and you should be pretty safe. Anything non abrasive is a pretty safe bet too until Paiste eventually releases a new cleaner if that ever happens.

A word on serial numbers....those began in 1972. Dating pre-serial 602s is a little spicy and requires more in depth deciphering. @zenstat is very good at dating pre-serials (approximately). The only 602s containing both a serial number and the embossed stamp at 12 o'clock are ones made between 1972-1980 to my knowledge. :D
 

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an 18" Seven Sound Set China from 1978 previously owned by Curt Cress (Passport)

what.

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affects the sound not a bit
just got to get a little creative mounting it (it's fun)

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No guarantee with this 18" at 1587g
You're on your own. - As is - where is- how is -
I won't even guarantee it's green.

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this also was in a Kid's home on the other side of town. by the window where the city fumes from the bus stop permeate the air. Daily. Excellent patina. dark Funky. More soul than a Thom McCann's shoe store on the Saturday before school starts in September.

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that's it the weird 6.

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No problem. Another mild cleaner I use is Mothers Chrome Polish. Just try to find mild automotive cleaners with carnuba that also clean and polish and you should be pretty safe. Anything non abrasive is a pretty safe bet too until Paiste eventually releases a new cleaner if that ever happens.

A word on serial numbers....those began in 1972. Dating pre-serial 602s is a little spicy and requires more in depth deciphering. @zenstat is very good at dating pre-serials (approximately). The only 602s containing both a serial number and the embossed stamp at 12 o'clock are ones made between 1972-1980 to my knowledge. :D
Thank you!
 

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In a world of technicolor, trends, and endless attempts at perfection, 602’s stand apart as “just good enough.”

I’ve owned some 602’s. Two remain, both pre-serial - a thin 14 HH top and a medium-thin 23. I love them. The 23 in particular is sublime (if a bit vanilla.)
 

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I'm jealous of thoes SE hats.
I have 2 pre serial 18 inch, both within 5 grams of each other. One has a couple little flea bites, and that's the one I'll play. They sound great!
The consistency seems to have been a Paiste trademark from the beginning.
I have a couple new 602's. The Thin 16 makes a nice top hat.
 

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