Vintage Zildjian K stamp date

[dingaling]

For jazz I use a Vintage K on top and vintage A on bottom. Anyone a cymbal nerd and can tell me the approx date of this stamp?

 

[varatrodder]

Looks like Intermediate Stamp: http://black.net.nz/old-k/which-old-k.html

 

[JDA]

yep 59-66 Intermediate
some era characteristics: stamp always in the middle of the cymbal
always somewhere lathe chatter
high profile almost A-ish cup;
lows/highs - mid freq hole;
"dry Dark Ice era"

 

[dingaling]

Thanks

 

[Rallaei]

Could someone identify these stamps?

Bottom:

Top:

 

[Esotericdrums]

Old stamp, JDA can prob tell you which version of the old stamp those are

 

[jmoll]

Could someone identify these stamps?

Bottom:
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Top:

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First one IIa (1945/49) second one IIIb (1953/56).

 

[Rallaei]

Thanks a bunch! Somehow I'm not able to really pinpoint it..

 

[JDA]

Thanks a bunch! Somehow I'm not able to really pinpoint it..

you see the height of the 'k' that's a start
here's a quick guide some hate but I don't:

Cymbal Stamp Timelines | K Zildjian – Istanbul Timeline

Stamp I (1930s-1945) The city of Turkey officially changed its name from "Constantinople" to "Istanbul" in 1930. Itphotos, samples, images, jpgs, soundfiles

robscott.net

 

[Tama CW]

Here is a good pictorial verison for post 1940 K's.

https://black.net.nz/old-k/old-k-gallery.html

For the Constantinople pre-40's K's.....use the other Scott site.

http://robscott.net/cymbals/k-constantinople/

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[Rallaei]

Can someone help me out with these also? I'm pretty sure its 2 new stamp and a intermediate, but would like to be sure.

Thanks in advance.

 

[mathale]

The 15" is an Intermediate (1959-1966), the 18" appears to be an Early New Stamp (1967-1972), and the 22" appears to be a Later New Stamp (1972-1977(78)).

 

[Rallaei]

The 15" is an Intermediate (1959-1966), the 18" appears to be an Early New Stamp (1967-1972), and the 22" appears to be a Later New Stamp (1972-1977(78)).

Thank you!

 

[Richie Paradise]

Having never even seen an old K I have had a stroke of luck recently. Bidded on an old fashioned auctioneers website and scored dirt cheap a nice old 70s Premier Royale drum kit which i noticed came with a whole bunch of cymbals, a camco pedal, and masses of old stands (in a pretty rough state tbh). Anyway nestled amongst the cymbals was a 13.5" K. I think it's 1960s?
Having struck gold once I also bid again on what was incorrectly labeled an old A Zildjian, it's actually a really nice 12" paper thin K. I can't work out a date on this one though as some of the stamp has gone. anyone more the wiser?

The hi hat sounds great, i've paired it up with the bottom of the reissue A Zildjian and Cie.

, anyone more the wiser?

 

[JDA]

yea the top one is the 59-66 Intermediate;
the Bottom one is older like late/early 40s Type I or II ..

see under
K Zildjian – Istanbul Timeline

Cymbal Stamp Timelines | K Zildjian – Istanbul Timeline

Stamp I (1930s-1945) The city of Turkey officially changed its name from "Constantinople" to "Istanbul" in 1930. Itphotos, samples, images, jpgs, soundfiles

robscott.net

Before the Type I the word Constantinople was on them
(and were more primitive

 

[Richie Paradise]

Thank you kindly

 

[Richie Paradise]

yea the top one is the 59-66 Intermediate;
the Bottom one is older like late/early 40s Type I or II ..

see under
K Zildjian – Istanbul Timeline

Cymbal Stamp Timelines | K Zildjian – Istanbul Timeline

Stamp I (1930s-1945) The city of Turkey officially changed its name from "Constantinople" to "Istanbul" in 1930. Itphotos, samples, images, jpgs, soundfiles

robscott.net

Before the Type I the word Constantinople was on them
(and were more primitive

some of images on this site are down, is there another resource? I've found some more pies...

 

[mathale]

... it's actually a really nice 12" paper thin K. I can't work out a date on this one though as some of the stamp has gone. anyone more the wiser?


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, anyone more the wiser?

Hi Richie Paradise!

This one is a K. Constantinople, Stamp 3, which of course is followed by the Stamp 4 era, and then the K. Zildjian Istanbul Type 1 era (1930s-1945). Great find! Congratulations. I bet it sounds sweet!

 

[Richie Paradise]

I was asked to give some idea of value to some drums and struck rare gold for the UK.

I Found 4 Old Ks. An 18" ride, looks like 40s-50s from the stamp, and likewise with a pair of hi hats. Top hat has a crack but doesn't effect the sound. Ride still has autograph.

There was also another older 14" with the older Constantinople stamp by looks of it. Which is either a hi hat or a tiny crash ride. Has a small crack on edge too. All sound great despite age and cracks. We struck a fair deal and I used them straight away on a gig that night.

From never even seeing an old K I've stumbled across 6 in the past year. I must be like one of those truffle pigs or something. Happy days.

 

[JDA]

there's a 60s New Stamp in there..
this one.

still has autograph.

'Inspectors sign-off"..