Weird Situation With New Remo Heads and Drum Dots. Any Suggestions?

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I have been playing Remo drum heads for as long as I can remember. Occasionally, I use Drum Dots (like Moon Gels) to dampen my drums. In the past 5 years or so of using Drum Dots, I have never had a problem. Until recently that is. About six weeks ago, I bought a set of new Remo coated Emperors. I put them on the drums, played them a bit, and then started preparing things for a recording I was doing. I went to put on some Drum Dots and for some reason, they would not stick to the Remo heads. I cleaned the Drum Dots with soap and water, as I have in the past, but it made no difference in terms of adhesion to the head. I tried everything, short of changing heads. (Mind you, the Drum Dots adhered to the previous Remo heads on drums without any problem.) I wound up using gaff tape instead, which worked okay, but it seemed to not stick as well as it typically does.

Fast forward to this week. I changed heads on my practice kit and put on some new Remo coated Ambassadors. Again, I went to put on Drum Dots on the new heads, and they would not adhere to the heads. Now, they literally were just fine 30 minutes prior when I had on my old Remo heads.

I can't figure out what the heck is going on. Did Remo change their formula recently? (My old heads were about a year old or so, if that matters.) I have never had this issue before with any Remo, Evans, or Aquarian heads.

Has anyone else had this issue as well? Anyone have any suggestions?
 

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Funny, I pulled out some old, still-in-the-package drum dots a couple weeks ago and they wouldn't stick on old heads....
 

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In general, I don't think they are as tacky as Moongel but I like them a bit more because they don't curl and deform like Moongel. I use Evans heads and Drum Dots stock pretty well but seems to adhere better over time.
 

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In general, I don't think they are as tacky as Moongel but I like them a bit more because they don't curl and deform like Moongel. I use Evans heads and Drum Dots stock pretty well but seems to adhere better over time.
Yeah, you are probably right, but I have never had an issue with the, adhering until just recently. I can only think Remo is doing something different.
 

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I noticed the same thing when I received my new Ludwig kit with new REMO Coated heads. I figured, due to a rougher new head and the dots are of a firm substance as compared to Moon Gel, with the lack of a smoother surface for it to cling to. I assumed over time the Dots will do a better job, although they are (playing live, I'm not recording) working fine for me and depending on the gig I play, I'm finding I'm beginning to enjoy a more open sound anyway.

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It has to be whatever sealant or protection coat they are using. They Use a coating to help keep the head clean and to keep grim etc.. from sticking. It is no doubt repelling your dampeners sticky properties.
 

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It has to be whatever sealant or protection coat they are using. They Use a coating to help keep the head clean and to keep grim etc.. from sticking. It is no doubt repelling your dampeners sticky properties.
Yes, that is exactly what I was thinking. Any ideas of how I can overcome this issue?
 

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SlapKlatz I like the most of all these sticky thingies. I don’t know why but to my ears they give a nicer sound and come in many sizes.
 

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Tru-Tones have worked well for me on my coated emps (and cymbals), you gotta wash them to keep sticky.
My emps are at least a year old, might be a different coating
 

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