What are these Hi Hats?

Phantomlimb777

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I got these in a trade, the person I got them from said they were gotten in a deal along with a bunch of Istanbul Agop Alchemy cymbals, but these have no stamp.
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Definitely not Agop. Much larger bell and different hammering.
That’s what I thought. The hammering reminds me of the Paiste traditional hat bottoms. The lathing on the inside reminds me of Sabian, and the bells are more like crash sized bells.
 

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Reminds me of the Meinl sand hats - unlathed top, lathed bottom......I defer to others......are you sure no stamp/emblem?
 

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The font looks like something UFIP would use, plus UFIPs usually have the weight written inside the bell of each cymbal. But the bells look unusually big...
 

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They look like Stagg VB series.

 

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Ufip naturals look more refined, you can also see signs of rotocasting at the bell. Not here.
I agree they look like some Stagg series. I have a VB crash that has the same lathing pattern, sounds quite sweet. They have come a long way with some series, blind-folded you could mistake them for Turkish or American pro cymbals.
 

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I'm with JDA... the bell shape and hammering looks like UFIP.
Is that exactly uniform hammering a UFIP thing? I feel like I've seen that on their cymbals-- and nowhere else that I can think of.
 

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Damn, those are identical.
Ask this seller. Maybe he buys them (from where in Asia is the question...) and brand them as "Joseph Distributions 15" Dark / Raw Hi-Hat":

https://reverb.com/item/12649568-joseph-distributions-15-dark-raw-hi-hat
Looks like we have the ID...

With Video : )


Doggone " Joseph's".... ...aka Tongxaing




the ink led the way..Book em Dan-o

Any final words for the court?

"Dark sounding cymbal with a raw finish on top and a lathed bottom. Has good stick definition and attack with a tamed opening. B20 alloy. Made in Asia.
Weights in grams: 1105 Top / 1353 Bottom
Thanks!"

no. thank you.

I got these in a trade,
If you decide to sell them be sure to mention they are (chinese) B20
 
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Is that exactly uniform hammering a UFIP thing? I feel like I've seen that on their cymbals-- and nowhere else that I can think of.
I don't own any UFIPs, but some models I've seen in shops had uniform hammering, and coupled with the shape of the bells on the op's hats, that had me thinking these may have been UFIP prototypes.

Cool that we seem to have a definitive answer on what they are.
 

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Speaking of Ufip...these look swell..


1931 Series. Goes well with an Aventador
 

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