So many good ones I missed...... there's a lot of drummers that aren't "in your face" but have amazing playing for the band/music such as Nick Mason and Phil Rudd....ect.
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Yup. I wrote about this elsewhere in this thread, imo Matt was a completely wasted talent in Pearl Jam.I think Eddie Vedder wanted PJ to be perceived as more of a punk rock band, not a bunch of musos. He didn’t like Dave A. being in Modern Drummer and endorsing gear. He was stung by criticism that the other Seattle bands were more legit alternatives to major label corporate rock than Pearl Jam. Getting Jack Irons in the band gave them some street cred.
I don’t think they were a punk band. I saw them as having more roots in metal/hard rock and they were kind of, uh jammy on that first record. Stone and Jeff were glam rockers, McCready was a SRV wannabe at that point. Dave A.’s style was perfect for that early material and kind of defined ‘90s alt rock drumming, for better or worse. Much like Vedder’s voice back then, I find the style a bit dated today.
I love Matt with Soundgarden but not at all with Pearl Jam. When I listen to that live drum cam video of Even Flow, he sounds too fast, too stiff, lacking in dynamics and just not grooving to my ears.
So many good ones I missed...... there's a lot of drummers that aren't "in your face" but have amazing playing for the band/music such as Nick Mason and Phil Rudd....ect.
That was a great podcastThe most recent Drumhistory podcast on Bonham makes a very good case for how his sound was indeed very much a full 25% plus of the 4-part contribution that made Zep Zep.
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I love Fish era Marillion!!!!’I'm going to go with Ian Mosley of Marillion. The proof is in the sound. Just listen:
Script for a Jester's Tear - Prog rock bar band that got lucky. Loping, loose drum tracks(Garden Party? Really?)
Fugazi onward - Arena-ready, tight progressive band. A chops monster on the kit.
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This right here!If this thread goes on much longer, I think every rock drummer that ever played in a rock band will have been mentioned!![]()
Excellent answer! The Loaded album sounds much more like a traditional rock band because Moe didn't play on it. Same for Live at Max's Kansas City with Doug Yule's brother and his squeaky bass drum pedal.Moe Tucker - Velvet Underground
Scroll up to some earlier posts where we discussed DensmoreI think of this thread from the angle of "if you took the drummer out, could he/she be replaced and the group sound pretty much the same?"
Some drummers (Keith Moon, for example) and their signature drum sounds (John Densmore, for example)[and sometimes both] are so essential to the definitive sound.
So if not already in this thread, I'll add John Densmore, a very unique drummer with a very specific sound.
Finally found the Keltner clip, starts at around 10:45 into it. After listening to it again I realized that Keltner wasn’t really trashing Densmore at all, he was praising him but said that Densmore had very little technique. I don’t know…some of his ride patterns and overall feel, that stuff is not easy to replicate, and some of it is done with technique, IMO.Can you find the clip please?
I like Densmore too. I have noticed he doesn’t hang with the drummers of his time, while everyone talks about drumming techniques they used 50 years ago and stuff, he’s very much into poetry.
Yea I don’t think he trashed Densmore, he just openly talks about what he (and many others) thinks of drummers like Ringo, Densmore, and Watts. He is probably friends with all of them and has talked with them about this topic openly, so he doesn’t care. All of those drummers have/had techniques, probably better than most of us but nothing near Keltner or Neil, but still they got really famous because their musical sensibility and style contributed so much to the success of their bands. Ringo himself said he can’t play the same fill two times in the same way, he just plays.Finally found the Keltner clip, starts at around 10:45 into it. After listening to it again I realized that Keltner wasn’t really trashing Densmore at all, he was praising him but said that Densmore had very little technique. I don’t know…some of his ride patterns and overall feel, that stuff is not easy to replicate, and some of it is done with technique, IMO.
Yeah you’re right, that really was a Ginger thing to do, and he totally trashed Mitch Mitchell.Yea I don’t think he trashed Densmore, he just openly talks about what he (and many others) thinks of drummers like Ringo, Densmore, and Watts. He is probably friends with all of them and has talked with them about this topic openly, so he doesn’t care. All of those drummers have/had techniques, probably better than most of us but nothing near Keltner or Neil, but still they got really famous because their musical sensibility and style contributed so much to the success of their bands. Ringo himself said he can’t play the same fill two times in the same way, he just plays.
Trashing was Ginger’s thing lol he was like Bonham was a good drummer but nothing near my level LoL
John Bonham hands down for me.